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I second that on the Cliff Lede. While I enjoyed the concentration of the Caymus SS, the Cliff Lede was a more balanced, elegant wine. Ripe, articulated fruit and a good deal of oak spiciness. I'm not a fan of spicy oak, in general, but here it works.
 
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Did you guys catch the article in either the NYT or WSJ last week (can't find it now) about many of California's high end wines down 40% in price from a year ago? If they're that cheaper there, I can't see the LCBO not negotiating a similar discount when buying. Time will tell.
 
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Did you guys catch the article in either the NYT or WSJ last week (can't find it now) about many of California's high end wines down 40% in price from a year ago? If they're that cheaper there, I can't see the LCBO not negotiating a similar discount when buying. Time will tell.


Did not see that, but it makes sense since it seems like USA economy is about to hit the toilet again! Hold on to your hats, October is almost here!!
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I love the Cliff Lede too, just having a really hard time with the $75 tariff. Probably will go back for a couple more because I'm weak, but this has really come up in price over the last few vintages.


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I love the Cliff Lede too, just having a really hard time with the $75 tariff. Probably will go back for a couple more because I'm weak, but this has really come up in price over the last few vintages.


Yeah, I see it readily available Stateside for $20 less. I had it again last night along with 2005 Caymus SS. The Lede is a well structured bruiser and should be forgotten for several years. The Caymus was surprisingly good to go, a much more elegant Cab compared to Lede. Both great in their own way.
 
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There were so many wines being poured last night that I was a bit overwhelmed. I do recall the Cliff Lede stealing the show over the Caymus. I'll be doing them both again tonite so I'll have a better idea how it is showing.


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Tons of 2006 Sori Patin finally arrived at QQ location
 
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Anybody try one yet ???? Fut ???
 
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Drank it over three hours on Wednesday and thought it was nice but not at the level of the 2005. It's very backward right now and much more traditional in style. I would give it 89 points and hope that it will improve with cellaring. I won't be touching my bottles until at least 2014-2016.

You'll find it quite austere right now, even with a lot of air.



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They are obviously getting rid of Vintages-on-Line and are dumping the remaining inventory. But I have never seen such niggardly price discounts! Is anyone really going to buy a mediocre $50 wine for $5 off?

How about 2004 Alpha Estate Red from the leading wine regions of Macedonia for $35? I think they really want to keep these wines for themselves. Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin
 
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I meant to post about this a couple of weeks ago, but I'll add it now. I found a 375ml of 2003 Chateau Haut-Mayne Sauternes for $23 at my local LCBO clear-out bin. I haven't really been able to find any information about when this was released and what the original list price was. Most importantly I haven't been able to find any professional reviews on it though it has a ct avg of 90.8 which I would consider decent for the money.

Not sure if it was old stock or a return, but I'd guess the latter. The cashier told me it had been delisted the day I bought it which I thought was kind of strange.

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It was released Sep 30, 2006 for... $23. LCBO strikes again!
 
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It was released Sep 30, 2006 for... $23. LCBO strikes again!


Thanks tb, 2/3 from Guide Hachette and the VA score are both really reassuring. I'll hold this for a few years and open and if it is flawed then it'll be going back.

On a side note I paid $23.05 for my bottle. Not discounted at all! I'm guessing the extra $0.10 is due to the increased bottle deposit since this was released.


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When their inventory goes down to the last few bottles, the LCBO have been putting them into a 'last chance' bin which customers mistakenly assume is price-reduced. It looks like a clear-out bin, but if you read the sign, it doesn't actually say so.

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Are there no more bin-end sales of unsold Classics wine?
 
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I bet they'll roll out any bin end sale after they've taken our money for the Feb Classics. Wouldn't want to detract from the current offering.
 
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Walked into Laird St LCBO yesterday and found a large number of items marked down by 30%. Picked up some:

2005 Hartford Court 4 Hearts Chardonnay (not as good as the 2007, but a good buy at $35)
2005 Roux & Fils Chassagne-Montrachet Les Macherelles
2006 Gunderloch Riesling Spätlese Rheinhessen Nackenheim Rothenberg
2006 Henri Gouges Nuits St George Les Pruliers
2008 Tenuta dell'Ornellaia Serre Nuovo
 
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Did you guys catch the article in either the NYT or WSJ last week (can't find it now) about many of California's high end wines down 40% in price from a year ago? If they're that cheaper there, I can't see the LCBO not negotiating a similar discount when buying. Time will tell.


Yes, I can't see LCBO not negotiating a similar discount, AND I also can't see them passing the entire discount on to their customers.
 
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Isn't this related to the whole pricing fiasco that was revealed a year ago by a number of folks here as well as columnists in the dailies - they work off fixed markups, so they can charge more if the supplier charges them more. I recall hearing something about the chateau/distributor being told by the LCBO to charge more or they'd be dropped. It's been a while though any my brain is increasingly foggy these days.
 
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FWIW, HAWKES CABERNET SAUVIGNON 2004 is $29.95, down from its original $31.95 back in December 2009. Oddly, it seems to be selling in the US for about $40. The Can/US price differential caught my eye - not often seen on LCBO shelves.
 
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FWIW, HAWKES CABERNET SAUVIGNON 2004 is $29.95, down from its original $31.95 back in December 2009. Oddly, it seems to be selling in the US for about $40. The Can/US price differential caught my eye - not often seen on LCBO shelves.


Saw this on the shelf at one of the satellite stores and recalled your posting. Definitely needs air; dranked over 2 days and was clearly better on day 2 - dense blackcurrent with hard but well integrated tannins, as good as other California cabs at twice it's price at least. Good structure and weight, this can be stored for another 5 years easy.

Excellent for $40 nevermind $30 at LCBO. Went back and cleaned the store of its remaining bottles. Thanks for the tip VinToronto!
 
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You're welcome.

Interestingly, it looks as though jhcolman tried one last night too, but didn't share the same
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The '04 Hawkes Cab is disappointing.

There shouldn't be so much brett (if any) in an Alex Valley Cab. This has brett on the nose and palate. Strike two is the capsicum; is a noticeable bell pepper tang. Might be a 90+ point wine for some, but not me.
 
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ADELAIDA CELLARS ANNA'S ESTATE VINEYARD SYRAH 2007 Delisted as of today, down to $22 from $27. Looks pretty decent, I'll give it a whirl sometime this week. Decent stock of this product throughout Ontario and the price appears to be at or below US prices.
 
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Bumping to report back on the Adelaida. Drank it over the past couple nights and I would say it is definitely worth checking out for the price.

Also grabbed some TALTARNI BRUT TACHÉ 2008 that was also reduced down to $20.40 from $25.
 
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