Anyone that put Piedmont or Tuscany in the top two are way off base. I just looked a four major catalogs and only Burgundy and Bordeaux had mutiple listing for wines over 200$. Nothing from Tuscany. And only one from Piedmont(Thank you very much Angelo). If you match points to dollars, I bet you will find tht Napawill knock Italy down to fourth. My top three:
1 Burgundy
2 Bordeaux
3 Napa

How did I miss this thread?

Well:

1. Napa
2. Bordeaux
3. Agia Napa (It's bloody Retsina and you have to pay for it, so it's over-priced)

Wine, Women and Song - one out of three ain't bad

So what's the verdict, eh?

Where's our fearless relentless tabulator, lcc, when we need him?


DRt

After careful statistical analysis, it looks like wines are overpriced everywhere.

It takes a lot of good beer to make great wine.

LRnW,
Partly true I'm afraid. NZ's commercial wines are about the same price here as they are in the US. And yes some Aussie wines are cheaper here because the Aussie government subsidises Aussie wine into NZ.
However as most NZ wineries don't even get off shore you can still find some great well hidden wine secrets here. Then you discover that certain US three tier problems do add on considerable dollars. So what started out as a bargain ends up a little more expensive than how you start.

Coleraine is a good example of something that is shipped to the US for cheaper than I can buy it- for one reason, they're trying to establish a market with red wine. But there are better reds (although this is a stunner) around in NZ but sit around the same price as they may do in the US.
The advantage in purchasing wine here is you find wines that 1) Winespectator will never review because the case production is too small and are stunners. 2) You discover a raft of wines that will never get to your shores.

Aussie's top wines are as expensive here as they are in Aussie with the exception of one or two. Clarendon Hills can be bought for quite cheap amounts due to NZ ignorance (you could pick up a bottle of the Clarendon Hills Australis for about 90$ NZD -45$USD) of great wines. This is changing as NZer's in general educate themselves about wine, and when it comes to drinking we tend to be pretty enthusiastic so we learn quick. Others that have started to go up include Henschke, Cullen, Leeuwin Estate, Cape Mentelle, D'Arenburg, Mt Langhi, Rosemount Balmoral and a number of others.

A question, how can a region be considered expensive if it's most expensive wine is only 75$ USD? I fail to understand how NZ wines can be considered expensive (although we consider anything over 30$ NZD getting up there.) in comparison to the $00's that Napa, Burgundy, Bordeaux, Barolo and Barberesco's command for MOST of their wines as opposed to a few pricey wines from other regions.

Jeremy Ellis<br />Brown's Seriously Fine Wines<br />Auckland, NZ<br />mighty turnip hunter. The animals are just to damn fast.

1. Any California fruit/alcohol bombs (Napa, CC, SB)
2. Bordeaux
3. Burgundy

I don't have any experience with Italy though.

Man Peer, talk about some serious dumpster diving here!

Shouldn't this question be rephrased and made into a poll?

A poll would be a good idea. Please include Burgundy among the choices

Jesus, Peer, where did you find this old thread. Brings a tear to my eye, thinking about the good old days of insulting Jeremy and his fellow sheep lovers.

Nice dive, PG.

You should see if you can find the study that Stefania_Wine did comparing prices and scored for Bordeaux, Burgundy and Napa. Bordeaux won that contest as I recall.

For my money, the most overpriced regional style is Californian sweet wines.

Napa, I must also say. I think Napa is just so cliched that they know they can be a little more pricey because it is the great Napa valley after all. Personally, in terms of the US, I prefer to go further up the Pacific coast to Oregon. Of course the wines I have bought from there have been more pricey, so that may not be a fair comparison. But I think most of your major wine regions are pricey for their prestige, so people are going to cite these bigger regions.

But you all may be speaking of more presigious wines. I myself do not usually spare more than $20 a bottle, being a student.

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Originally posted by Dave Tong BBP:


For my money, the most overpriced regional style is Californian sweet wines.

Wow, nice call!

Also, my experience has also been by the glass, and I do not like to count those Napas. Wine by the glass when eating out is never as good, especially in a casual restraunt that treats their wine like beer and soda.

1. Napa
2. Burgundy
3. Champagne

I have seen Brunello on this thread a couple of times. I find this to be one of the best quality/price regions??

Better back up the truck on your next trip to santa barbara wine country, folks--note not one vote for overpriced, but the wines are beginning to catch on and rise in price.

Famous Sommelier at Sta. Rita Hills Wine and Fire event: 'I expect to see Sta Rita Hills pinots fetching $100-$150 a bottle within 5 years.'

And unlike Burgundy, those wines will be consistently rich, balanced and complex.

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Originally posted by Wes_Hagen_VM_Clos_Pepe:
Famous Sommelier at Sta. Rita Hills Wine and Fire event: 'I expect to see Sta Rita Hills pinots fetching $100-$150 a bottle within 5 years.'

<falling on the ground laughing>

Sauternes

quote:

Originally posted by JEB:
2. Brunello/Piemonte<br /><br />However, if money were not an issue, I would buy burgundy first.

Yes but don't forget you can buy Barbera which is generally fantastic value.

Yeah, I was looking into buying some Brunello or Barolo so I did a search to find out which one was generally considered more overpriced that the other. Results inconclusive.

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Originally posted by Slan:
Sauternes

If you mean the 05 futures, you may have a point. Otherwise you're batsh!t insane.

1) Bordeaux
2) Napa
3) Burgundy

Wow. I have only looked down the first page, almost stuns me that no one has said Bordeaux!?

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Originally posted by vinosnob:
Wow. I have only looked down the first page, almost stuns me that no one has said Bordeaux!?

That's because Bordeaux is rated on a dollar for Brettanomycnes value scale, and as such it always rates extremely highly, especially 2003.

quote:

Originally posted by Slan:
Sauternes

Slan, you must not like Sauternes to say this. I think it's one of the few Bordeaux wines that still offer good value. Take the '03 La Tour Blanche at $50 for example. Stellar wine, great price. Ditto for the Guiraud and Suduiraut, although they both cost a little more.