I wanted to see if WS had finally tasted Tronquoy-Lalande from the bottle, considering it gave it a whopping 92-94 from barrel. When I did my search, not only did I not find the bottle tasting, but I did not even find their previous barrel note! What gives? Why didn't WS ever taste this from the bottle after it gave such a high mark to it from barrel. Having tasted the wine, I think I know why, but I would like WS to comment.

I did find the 2002 barrel note, but no 2000:

Winery: Château Tronquoy-Lalande
Wine: St.-Estèphe 2002
Score: Barrel Tasting
Barrel Tasting
Price: $NA
Country: France

Region: Bordeaux

Issue: Jun 30, 2003

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Slightly overextracted, with big and dry tannins, but good berry and spice character. Very hollow in the center palate. Curious where this is going. Score range: 80-84 (JS)

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I noticed the same thing about the 2001 Cal Cab Barrel tastings. I cannot seem to be able to find them in the review search engine. At first I thought that perhaps they removed the barrel tastings when they came out with the bottle tasting, but I noticed that I cannot seem to find barrel tastings that I know that I previously saw and for which there is not yet a bottle review:

examples:
2001 Spottswoode barrel tasting
2001 Chateau Souverain Cab
2001 Lakota (I am pretty sure I saw this before).
2001 Pride
2001 Caymus
2001 Lewis

I'd love to see a TN from the bottle too, since this one of six 2000 futures I bought,

snow sucks, cold is worse.......

Dumb question, but do you all pay for full access? It is a riduculous $49.95 per year.

If not, you only have access to tasting notes posted in the last 12 months.

Pipeau,

I don't think WS scored the 2000 Tronquoy-Lalande from bottle and I don't know why. All I can say is that it happens sometimes with all critics. I have seen barrel scores from WS, WA and many other experts which are never followed up with a bottle tasting.

The barrel TN for this wine was posted by WS in the Wine Rating section in 2001 and can only be viewed for free for 1 year. You can still view it if you have full access though. However, there is another way to get the 2000 barrel scores for free. You can still find all of the 2000 Barrel scores in WS's archived articles by doing an "Advanced Search". Here is a link for the TN's which were part of that article:

2000 Bordeaux Barrel Scores

VM

I paid for a subscription when you could still get it for two years. It was much cheaper, and I think I'm good until 2005.

I am in the same boat as futronic, for a while it was real cheap

I have the paid subscription and the 2000 barrel score is no longer listed when you do a regular ratings search (though other years of this wine are). This is very, to be kind, peculiar.

Where' a conspiracy theorist when you need one?

Hey, if i called this wine as 92-94, I'd be looking to dump that record too!

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Originally posted by baird6869:
Dumb question, but do you all pay for full access? It is a riduculous $49.95 per year.

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Agreed.

I think if they bundled full access with the magazine subscription they'd do much better.

As a result, I now subscribe to neither.

As far as the missing TN's:
Isn't the total lack of evidence the strongest proof yet that the conspiracy is working?


funny wine quip goes here.

Check Bel Orme Tronquoy-Lalande. I don't know if this is the same wine.

I balked at the 50$ price tag too! Drop it down "To just one easy payment of $19.99" and i'd bite.