Here is my list so far. A little under 4 cases and I will probably purchase some more when I see good prices.

1 x 2005 Weingut Johannishof (H.H. Eser) Johannisberger Vogelsang Riesling Kabinett V- WS92
4 x 2005 Weingut Josef Leitz Rüdesheimer Berg Roseneck Riesling Spätlese- IWC92, VM90
1 x 2005 Weingut Josef Leitz Rüdesheimer Magdalenenkreuz Riesling Spätlese- IWC88, WS93
3 x 2005 Müller-Catoir Gimmeldinger Mandelgarten Riesling Spätlese- IWC90, WS90
9 x 2005 Joh. Jos. Prüm Graacher Himmelreich Riesling Auslese Goldkapsel- WS97, VM98
3 x 2005 Joh. Jos. Prüm Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese- (WA(92-94+), IWC95, WS97
1 x 2005 Joh. Jos. Prüm Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese Goldkapsel- WA(95-96), IWC96, WS98
3 x 2005 Joh. Jos. Prüm Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Spätlese- WA(92-93), IWC95, WS95
7 x 2005 Schlossgut Diel Dorsheimer Goldloch Riesling Spätlese- IWC92, WS94
3 x 2005 Selbach-Oster Zeltinger Schlossberg Riesling Auslese*- WA94+, IWC91
2 x 2005 Bert Simon Serriger Würtzberg Riesling Spätlese
2 x 2005 Weingut Spreitzer Oestricher Lenchen Riesling Kabinett- IWC88(+?), WS90

VM

3 x 2005 Joh. Jos. Prüm Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese
3 x 2005 Joh. Jos. Prüm Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Spätlese

Just beginning to add German Riesling to my buy/hold portfolio however. Damn, every time I turn around another varietal is capturing my fancy....

PH

Also, Vino Me....could you summarize what makes a Goldkapsel different (other than a Goldkapsel of course!) Also I've seen "auction" designated Riesling. What is that?

PH

I REALLY need to stop, I'm almost at 10 cases

Dönnhoff Niederhäuser Hermannshöhle Riesling Auslese
Dönnhoff Niederhäuser Hermannshöhle Riesling Spätlese
Dönnhoff Norheimer Dellchen Riesling Spätlese
Dönnhoff Norheimer Kirschheck Riesling Spätlese
Dönnhoff Oberhäuser Brücke Riesling Auslese
Dönnhoff Oberhäuser Leistenberg Riesling Kabinett
Dönnhoff Schloßböckelheimer Felsenberg Riesling Auslese
Dönnhoff Schloßböckelheimer Felsenberg Riesling Spätlese
Essenheimer Römerberg Riesling Eiswein
Fritz Haag Brauneberger Juffer Riesling Kabinett
Fritz Haag Brauneberger Juffer-Sonnenuhr Riesling Spätlese
Weingut Heymann-Löwenstein Winninger Röttgen Riesling Erste Lage
Weingut Heymann-Löwenstein Winninger Uhlen Laubach Riesling Erste Lage
Karthäuserhof Eitelsbacher Karthäuserhofberg Riesling Spätlese
Karthäuserhof Eitelsbacher Karthäuserhofberg Riesling Spätlese Trocken
Franz Künstler Hochheimer Hölle Riesling Erstes Gewächs
Franz Künstler Hochheimer Kirchenstück Riesling Spätlese
Weingut Josef Leitz Rüdesheimer Berg Rottland Riesling Spätlese Trocken Alte Reben
Weingut Josef Leitz Rüdesheimer Berg Schloßberg Riesling Spätlese
Weingut Josef Leitz Rüdesheimer Klosterlay Riesling Kabinett
Weingut Josef Leitz Rüdesheimer Magdalenenkreuz Riesling Spätlese
Joh. Jos. Prüm Bernkasteler Badstube Riesling Auslese
Joh. Jos. Prüm Bernkasteler Badstube Riesling Spätlese
Joh. Jos. Prüm Graacher Himmelreich Riesling Auslese
Joh. Jos. Prüm Graacher Himmelreich Riesling Spätlese
Joh. Jos. Prüm Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese
Joh. Jos. Prüm Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese Goldkapsel
Joh. Jos. Prüm Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Spätlese
S.A. Prüm Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese Fass 56
S.A. Prüm Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Spätlese
Schäfer-Fröhlich Bockenauer Felseneck Riesling Spätlese
Schäfer-Fröhlich Bockenauer Felseneck Riesling Spätlese Trocken
Schäfer-Fröhlich Riesling Halbtrocken
Schäfer-Fröhlich Riesling Kabinett
Schlossgut Diel Dorsheimer Goldloch Riesling Spätlese
Selbach-Oster Bernkasteler Badstube Riesling Auslese *
Selbach-Oster Bernkasteler Badstube Riesling Spätlese *
Selbach-Oster Riesling Spätlese
Bert Simon Serrig Herrenberg Riesling Kabinett
Von Hövel Oberemmeler Hütte Riesling Spätlese
Zilliken (Forstmeister Geltz) Saarburger Rausch Riesling Kabinett
Zilliken (Forstmeister Geltz) Saarburger Rausch Riesling Spätlese

JJ Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Auslese - WS 97
JJ Prum Graacher Himmelreich Auslese - WS 95

According to the Wine Spectator reviews, these won't be at their best for another 2-3 years. Those of you who have a lot of experience with German wines, how much is to be gained by waiting?

JJ Prum W-S Auslese
JJ Prum G-H Auslese
Dr Pauly Bergweiler W-S Auslese
SA Prum W-S Spatlese
SA Prum G-H Spatlese

Wilson, JJ Prum wines normally benefit from age, especially the two you listed. I have tasted a few of mine, spritzy and great, but somewhat infanticide.

My list, about 3 cases and counting (if KC shops will cooperate; about 1/3 of these purchased in Chicago):

Weingut Johannishof Johannisberg V Riesling Kabinett
Theo Minges Gleisweiller Holle Riesling Spatlese
Monchof-Robert Eymael Urziger Wurzgarten Riesling Spatlese
Selbach Riesling Kabinett MSR Fish Label
Selbach-Oster Zeltinger Schlossberg Riesling Spatlese
Von Hovel Balduin v Hovel Riesling Spatlese
Leitz Rudesheimer Magdalenkreuz Riesling Spatlese
JJ Prum Wehlener Sonnenhur Riesling Spatlese
JJ Prum Graacher Himelreich Riesling Auslese
JJ Prum Graacher Himelreich Riesling Spatlese
JJ Prum Graacher Domprobst Riesling Spatlese
Prinz zu Salm-Dalberg Two Princes Riesling Qba
Reichsgraf von Kesselstatt Scharzhofberger Riesling Spatlese
Albert Gessinger Zeltinger Sonnenuhr Riesling Spatlese *
Dr Pauly-Bergweiler Bernkasteler Badstube Riesling Spatlese
Schmitges Erdener Treppchen Riesling Auslese *
Schloss VollradsRiesling Kabinett
Gunderloch Riesling Kabinett Jean-Baptiste
Dr Loosen Saint M Riesling Qba
Dr Loosen Dr L Riesling Qba
Leitz Dragonstone Riesling Qba
Monchof-Robert Eymael Riesling Qba
St. Urbans-Hof Riesling Qba

quote:

Originally posted by Wilson:
JJ Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Auslese - WS 97
JJ Prum Graacher Himmelreich Auslese - WS 95

According to the Wine Spectator reviews, these won't be at their best for another 2-3 years. Those of you who have a lot of experience with German wines, how much is to be gained by waiting?

Probably much longer than that. Now I'll have to wall-up part of my cellar to keep them safe from myself.

I am in awe of those of you who like Don (3 cases), Vino Me (4 cases), and Arie (10 cases for the championship) who are depleting the German vineyards. Assuming that you are buying a lot of other wines as well in quantity, the question arises, are you purchasing them as an investement for future resale, do you drink a couple of pricey bottles every night, or will you just never catch up?

That said, it does appear that the high end German wines offer excellent value, probably because sweet wines are not a universal taste. I hope that this fact keeps them reasonable.

Wilson- Although German wines provide excellent value, they do not appreciate very well and therefore are not good candidates for investment purposes. I am in "I buy them to drink" category but also never expect to catch up with what I have.

PH- Here are a couple links to previous threads I started which will answer all your questions and many you probably have not thought of:
Goldcap and other German info.
German Auction Wines.

VM

Yes! A Riesling thread ... Like Purple Haze, this varietal has captured my attention in a big time way.

Some of your lists are impressive, but daunting for a neophyte drinker of the German juice.

I want to buy some 2005 (considered a landmark vintage correct)? What would your suggestions be, keeping in mind high QPR and ageability? Just 3-5 would be nice.

Thanks

2005 Freiherr Longwerth Simmern Riesling Kabinett
2005 Weingut Josef Leitz Rüdesheimer Magdalenenkreuz Riesling Spätlese
2005 Dr. Pauly-Bergweiler Bernkasteler Badstube Riesling Kabinett
2005 Schumann Nägler Riesling
2005 Peter Mertes Riesling Kabinett
and
2005 Chateau Ste. Michelle & Dr. Loosen Riesling Eroica

C2, JJ Chrisoffel makes many good reasonably priced rieslings that are under $20 and get very good ratings. The Leitz dragonstone is always a winner too for $14!

I think I've stopped at:
4x 2005 Gunderloch Nackenheimer Rothenberg Riesling Auslese Goldkapsel ($69.99)
2x 2005 Karthäuserhof Eitelsbacher Karthäuserhofberg Riesling Kabinett ($23.67)
4x 2005 Langwerth Von Simmern Erbacher Marcobrunn Riesling Kabinett ($20.67)
6x 2005 Joh. Jos. Prüm Graacher Himmelreich Riesling Auslese ($32.99)
9x 2005 Joh. Jos. Prüm Graacher Himmelreich Riesling Auslese Goldkapsel ($69.99)
2x 2005 Joh. Jos. Prüm Wehlener Riesling Spätlese ($23.99)
7x 2005 Joh. Jos. Prüm Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese ($38.28)
6x 2005 Joh. Jos. Prüm Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese Goldkapsel ($82.95)
12x 2005 S.A. Prüm Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese Fass 56 ($19.99)
4x 2005 Willi Schaefer Graacher Domprobst Riesling Auslese #10 ($69.95)
6x 2005 Schäfer-Fröhlich Bockenauer Felseneck Riesling Spätlese ($27.95)
7x 2005 Selbach-Oster Bernkasteler Badstube Riesling Auslese * ($27.30)
2x 2005 Selbach-Oster Bernkasteler Badstube Riesling Spätlese * ($22.95)
3x 2005 Selbach-Oster Zeltinger Sonnenuhr "Rotlay" Riesling Auslese ($33.24)
6x 2005 Weingut Spreitzer Oestricher Doosberg Riesling Kabinett ($18.99)
2x 2005 Von Hövel Oberemmeler Hütte Riesling Spätlese ($19.99)

Just under 7 cases. And I would like to express my appreciation to VM for not posting his purchase prices so that I don't have to feel too bad about mine.

I buy the same producers every year.
Here's a complete list:

quote:

Originally posted by Vino Me:
PH- Here are a couple links to previous threads I started which will answer all your questions and many you probably have not thought of:
Goldcap and other German info.
German Auction Wines.

VM

Thanks!

PH

Ditto. I also got Grans-Fassian Trittenheimer Apotheke-Auslese and Gunderloch Rothenberg Nachenheim Spatlese.

quote:

Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
3 x 2005 Joh. Jos. Prüm Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese
3 x 2005 Joh. Jos. Prüm Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Spätlese

Just beginning to add German Riesling to my buy/hold portfolio however. Damn, every time I turn around another varietal is capturing my fancy....

PH

CS78- Here is a thread with my 2005 German Vintage Opinion and some recommended wines to look for.

VM

Von Schubert
Maximin Grunhaus Abstberg Kabinett
Maximin Grunhaus Abstberg Spatlese

Quantities 3 or less of these:

2005 Schäfer Fröhlich Riesling Kabinett
2005 Schäfer Fröhlich Bockenauer Felseneck Spätlese
2005 Gunderloch Rothenberg Riesling Spätlese
2005 Diel Dorsheimer Goldloch Riesling Spätlese
2005 Willi Schaefer Graacher Domprobst Auslese #6
2005 J.J. Prum Graacher Himmelreich Auslese
2005 S.A.Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Auslese #56

Less than a case so far... I think I'd like to get more Auslesen; I was afraid expecting too much sweetness (preferring dry), but was so impressed with the ones I've had.

Wilson,

Ditto on what VM said .. I drink everything I buy. My wife is not much of a red wine drinker, but we spent 4 years in Germany and share a love for rieslings. I have never found a new world riesling that could come close to German, although Hogue in WA is not bad.

Due to storage limitations, I have never been able to keep any Prum bottles around for more ten 10 years, but I was lucky to taste some older vintages, the best being a '71 auslese. I have never tasted Yquem, but that '71 was heaven in a glass.

Don

What improvements occur when you cellar a great German auslese for ten years or so?

Wilson,

Here is something that I previously posted on the board which should answer your question:

"Aging German Riesling is not like aging Bordeaux. Although there can be a dull phase which Auslese Riesling will go through from say years 2-6, it is never as severe as what Bordeaux goes through. Furthermore, you don't have to deal with overpowering tannins in Riesling like you do in Bordeaux. Lastly, the metamorphosis that Riesling goes through is very different than the change which occurs in Bordeaux. In Bordeaux, the wine integrates and it is almost widely accepted that aged Bordeaux is more pleasurable than an immature bottle. Drinking a young German Riesling is like drinking Spring in a bottle. It is fruity, minerally, spritzy (often) and has a lighter body and texture. Drinking aged German Riesling is like drinking Autumn in a bottle. It is heavier, more complex and the fruit is less tropical.

It is not altogether clear to me that the latter style of German Riesling is always better than the former. Particularly with the Graacher Himmelreich vineyard which seems to drink better at a young age than wines from the Wehlener Sonnenuhr (note: I have not opened any of my WS Auslese for this reason)."

VM