Nice topic! The houses in my cellar (mostly single bottles):

Burmester – '94
Churchill – '94
Cockburn – '91
Croft – '94
Calém – '92
Dow – '77, '78, '80, '91, '92, '94, '97
Eira Velha – '94
Fonseca – '85, '88, '91
Graham – '97
Kopke – '85, '91, '00
Niepoort – '87, '91, '97
Osborne – '94
Noval – '95 (Silval), '00
Romaneira – '94
Sandeman – '94
Taylor – '80, '85, '87, '91, '92, '94
Warre – '85

And quite a lot of LBV, including a horizontal of 1995 consisting of the following houses: Barros, Burmester, Cockburn, Croft, Delaforce, Don Pedro, Dow, Fonseca, Freitas, Graham's,
Kopke, Martinez, Messias - Quinta do Cachão, Niepoort, Offley, Porto Almiro, Rabelo's, Ramos Pinto, Rozès, Taylor and Quinta das Heredias.

Let's see:

1977: Dow (3)
1980: Kopke colheita (1)
1985: Kopke (1)
1985: Kopke - S. Luiz (1)
1985: Fonseca (2)
1987: Fonseca Guimarens (1)
1987: Ferreira (1)
1991: Kopke Colheita (1)
1993: Quinta das Liceiras (1) (i don't have high hopes...)
1994: Taylor (1)
1995: Quinta do Passadouro (1)
1997: Barros
1999: Quinta de Castelinho (1)
2000: Calem - Quinta do Pego (1)
2000: Quinta do Crasto (2)
2000: Burmester (1)
2000: Kopke
2000: Niepoort
2000: Niepoort Secundum

And several LBV's of different years: Ramos Pinto, Quinta do Crasto, Quinta de Baldias, Niepoort, Burmester, Taylor's, Warre's, Dow's.

I started buying too late to run into many good bargains of '94 and '97. I'm trying to make up in buying 2000...

Not many-getting to old to wait them out.

'94 Churchill
'97 Dow
'97 Warre
'00 Fonseca (2)
'00 Taylor Fladgate (2)

Most others I pick up to drink.

Gee, what a pleasant surprise, to see this old thread come back to life! We have hardly had any since my post above many months ago. I was going to try to reply from memory, but instead I think I'll use this as an excuse to actually see what I've bought over the past year. Nothing too exciting I expect....

Maverickdrinker: you have made my heart sing! I have been tempted to order 6 bottles each of th 2000 Graham and either the Smith Woodhouse or Taylor from Berry Brothers futures in London, but as there is not guarantee that I can get it all back here without paying the 40% ( ) duty, I was hesitating. I'll now wait to see what our government offers and at what price. Thanks again!

Relative newcomer to Vintage Port scene. what I have left is:

Taylor 1994 & 1997 - half and full bottles
Fonseca 1994 -
Niepoort 1997
Delaforce 1997
Smith Woodhouse 1997
Quinto do Crasto 1997
Quinto do Noval 2000
Silval 2000
Smith Woodhouse 2000
Graham's 2000

Anything older that I had is now gone

I'm amazed by how many people have young Port and not mature Port. IMO vintage port takes over 20 years, (for my palate 30 years) to mature, it's almost indestructable and doesn't cost much more than current offerings. So why aren't more people buying 77, 83 or 85 vintages?

My Port collection consists of approximately:

55 Grahams x 8
55 Taylors x 9
63 Grahams x 1
70 Taylors x 2
70 Grahams x 3
70 Dow x 2
77 Grahams x 6
77 Taylor x 5
77 Fonseca x 3
77 Dow x 3
83 Grahams x 4
83 Dow x 2
83 Taylor x 4
83 Fonseca x 4
85 Grahams x 6
85 Taylor x 4
85 Fonseca x 4

Well, for my budget at least, the more mature ports are just too expensive. I've got the space to store my port like it should, so I'm happy to buy '94ers and letting them age for years. Most VP from '77 and older start from around $100 over here, and that's just to much for me (many from '94 sell for $30 - $40).

Steve,

A quick look on Wine-Searcher.com showed several merchants offering 1977 Dow, Graham & Taylor for $65-70.

1994 currently cost as much, or more! I also checked into 2000, the average price was $50.

It's just my opinion, but if you enjoy Vintage Port, mature examples are available for a song! And Port more than any other red wine, because it's fortified needs 20 or more years to fully come around to the point where it's components are completely married.

Pomerollvr, that are good prices. However, I haven't seen them in The Netherlands! I do agree, there are few things as tasty as a mature port. And sometimes I DO get lucky (Dow '77 for $46 => yes!). The prices for the 2000 Vintage appear to be the same in the US as in Europe, making the '94ers (with Dutch prices) a relative bargain.

Pomerollovr - some very good points.

I have noticed some 70s and 80s vintage Ports from fine producers for under $100 or thereabouts of late... really should pick up a few...yummy

Steve,

Check out Wine-searcher.com and sign up fpr the pro version. It will be easy to have the wines shipped from England giving you mature Port to enjoy.

THOTH,

I'm glad I can help you see the light. IMO, there is no reason to buy young Port when mature Port is available for clsoe to the same price.

i don't really like to SHOW and BRAG

but here's my cellar Vintage-port list:

cockburn 1983 - 16

dow's 1983 - 1
dow's 1977 - 1

fonseca 1970 - 2
fonseca 1977 - 5
fonseca 1983 - 2
fonseca 1985 - 51
fonseca 1991 - 1
foseeca 1992 - 1
fonseca 1994 - 36 and "3 mag."
fonseca 2000 - 48 and "12 mag" and "48 half"

graham 1970 - 1 with friends
graham 1977 - 9
graham 1985 - 10
graham 1994 - 8 and "1 half"
graham 2000 - 96 and "4 mag."

harvey's 1983 - 3

niepoort 1991 - 1 and "1 half"
niepoort 1992 - 3 and "1 half"

vesuvio 1994 - 12
vesuvio 2000 - 48

romariz 1994 - 1

taylor's 1970 - 5
taylor's 1977 - 4
taylor's 1985 - 3
taylor's 1992 - 1
taylor's 1994 - 83 and "5 mag" and "13 half"
taylor's 2000 - 42 and "15 mag" and "60 half"

ordered but who knows:
3 nacional 2000 and only if i get the nacional i'll buy 18 noval!

for the 2000'th only the graham's are arrived and
all others are already payed and confirmed, but not arrived!

cheers!

WOW. That's a dreamlist Tsunami!

All hail Tsunami, Portlover (and port collector) extraordinaire!

Still haven't wandered down to the basement to count the new bottles y, but off the top of my head, in addition to those listed in the original post, I have added:

-7 halves 1997 Sandeman Vau
-1 1995 Vesuvio
-1 1994 Vesuvio
-3 1987 Vargellas
-2 or 3 more 1985 Graham
-2 more 1985 Fonseca
-1 1983 Cockburn (does anyone NOT love Jan Luthman!? )
-1 1983 Fonseca
-1 1983 Graham
-1 magnum 1977 Graham
-1 1966 Offley's (but I drank it already)
-2 1963 Delaforce (still got one of those babies left)

I think that's it, and hope I'm not duplicating from the first list. About 75 bottles in all.

77 - 1 Dow
83 - 3 Graham, 1 Dow, 1 Fonseca
85 - 1 Graham
94 - 2 Warre, 2 Martinez, 2 Niepoort, 1 Cockburn, 2 Smith & Woodhouse, 1 Churchill, 1 Osborne
95 - 1 Fonseca, 1 Taylor
97 - 2 Taylor, 1 Martinez,
00 - 1 Graham, 3 Noval, 1 Fonseca, 2 Smith & Woodhouse

Nice to re-read this old thread. I have about three cases, mostly 1994, but also some 1992, 1985 and 1983.

Back to the issue of buying new release, or aged port. The issue here is the use of your money, use of your cellar space, and inflation.

If a new release port costs $50, and you get 7% long term return on your money in the stock market or a home or whatever, then is it better to use those $50 to to buy and properly store (usually about $1.50 per year per bottle) new release port, (which actually makes your cost + storage $80), or to pass on the port, invest the $50, let the investment grow, and buy the port in 20 years when it is ready?

My impression is that you can invest the money, buy the port at, say $175 in 20 years, and have lots of money left over.

yes i also enjoyed reading this "old" topic

i can add to my list

1955 warre's

1955 graham's

1948 fonseca

1948 niepoort garrafeira

2000 nacional
1985 nacional
1983 nacional

coool!!

My updated list (single bottles unless noted):

Burmester – ’94 , ’95 (3)
Churchill – ’91, ’94
Cálem – ’92
Cockburn – ‘91
Croft – ’94
Dow – ’77 (2), ’80, ’82, ’87, ’88, ’89 (2), ’91, ’92, ’95 (2), ’96 (2), ’97, ’00, ’01
Eira Velha – ’94 (4)
Fonseca – ’82, ’85 (3), ’86, ’88, ’91, ’95 (4), ’96, ’97, ’01
Graham – ’97, ’00
Kopke – ’85, ’91
Niepoort – ’87, ’91, ’97, ’00
Noval – ’95, ’00
Noval Silval – ’95, ’00, ’01
Osborne – ’94
Romaneira – ’94
Sandeman – ’94, ’96
Smith Woodhouse – ’00 (2)
Taylor – ’70 (2), ’77 (4), ’82, ’85, ’87 (2), ’91, ’92, ’94 (3), ’95 (4), ‘96
Vesuvio – ’01
Vista Allegre – ‘00

Tsunami, 96 bottles of 2000 Graham's and 83 bottles of '94 Taylor's?!?

I have single bottles of

Dow's '94 and '97
Vesuvio '95
Smith Woodhouse Madalena '95
Calem '97
Sandeman Vau Vintage '97
Warre's '97
Graham's 2000
Roriz 2000
Smith Woodhouse 2000

Might as well chip in.

2000: 8 splits of Taylor, 2 splits of Sandeman Vau, 6 splits of Fonseca, 4 splits fo Graham's
97: 6 Taylor, 3 Fonseca
92: 1 Fonseca
91: 1 Vargellas
87: 2 Vargellas
86: 1 Guimareans
70: 3 Taylor

Indeed a good idea to update the list. Some additions have been made in the meanwhile...
Like on StevieCage's list, all are single bottles unless mentioned otherwise.

Barros: '97
Barão de Vilar: '97
Broadbent: '00
Burmester: '95 (3), '00
Churchill's: '97, '00
Churchill's Agua Alta: '95
Croft: '77
Dow's: '77 (2), '94 (3)
Dow's Bomfim: '95, '96 (2)
Fonseca: '66, '85 (9), '97
Fonseca Panascal: '87
Fonseca Guimaraens: '87, '95 (2), '01
Graham's: '77 (4 - 2 magnum / 2 regular), '00
Kopke: '85, '00
Poças: '00 (2)
Niepoort: '52 (Garrafeira), '77, '87, '92, '94, '00
Niepoort Secundum: '00
Osborne: '94
Quinta das Liceiras: '93
Quinta de Castelinho: '99, '00
Quinta de Roriz: '01
Quinta de la Rosa: '99
Quinta do Crasto: '00 (3)
Quinta do Infantado: '00
Quinta do Noval: '85
Quinta do Noval Silval: '00
Quinta do Passadouro: '95, '98, '00
Quinta do Pego (Cálem): '00 (2)
Quinta vale D. Maria: '99, '01
Rozès: '00
Sandeman Vau: '96, '97
São Pedro das Aguias: '00
Taylor's: '77 (6), '94, '97
Taylor's Terra Feita: '95
Taylor's Vargellas: '87 (7), '95 (2)
Vista Alegre: '00
Warre's Cavadinha: '86, '95
Wiese & Krohn Retiro Novo: '97

1 1974 Barros Tawny
1 1983 Croft Quinta da Roeda
2 1985 Graham
1 1985 Fonseca
1 1991 Taylor Quinta (375 ml)
1 1992 Taylor
1 1992 Fonseca (1.5L)
2 1994 Croft (375 ml)
1 1997 Quinta do Vesuvio
1 2000 Taylor
2 2000 Graham (375 ml)
2 2000 Smith-Woodhouse

I think there will be a few people jealous of my list. Its not quit up to par with Tsunami's but its close!

1994 Warre's - 1
2000 Smith Woodhouse - 1

Hey I gotta start somewhere and I just started this month!

Jason