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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/science...laim-scientists.html Of course this won't be used to counterfeit mature bottles "No TV and no beer make Homer...something, something" | ||
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I'd love to see the science behind this. If there is any. | |||
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I'd like to see the wine behind this-- "For the test wine, the team selected a three-month-old cabernet sauvignon from the Suntime Winery, China's largest producer." --If there is any. | |||
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I've been talking to some winemakers about this. There may actually be *some* science here. ____ Faith CAN move mountains... but you have to bring a shovel. redwinebuzz.com, winesooth.com, redwinebuzz.com/forum, twitter.com/redwinebuzz | |||
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Here is a link that give a better explanation. newscience An excerpt- "Analysis revealed some significant chemical changes. Most obviously, there was a marked increase in reactions between alcohols and acids to produce esters. This led to a reduction in concentrations of the long-chain alcohols known to be responsible for nasty odours and a burning mouth feel, while the increase in the concentration of esters boosted the aroma and the perception of fruitiness. Two other good things happened: the breakdown of proteins produced free amino acids that contribute to taste and there was a noticeable reduction in the levels of aldehydes, which are responsible for "off" flavours. You can have too much of a good thing, though. Upping the voltage and applying it for longer brought new and unwanted changes, including the generation of new undesirable aldehydes. Zap it too much and the result, the panel found, was worse than the untreated original." This is not total voodoo, unlike many other devices, but I'll wait for validated taste tests before forming any opinion. | |||
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The eBob link had eye candy. | |||
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It's obvious that since this experiment was done in China it must be valid. Would Chinese industry ever do anything dishonest? ******* Go Habs Go | |||
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I'd be curious to see how they measured the chemical changes in the wines pre and post . . . I am a skeptic of things like this, but having an open mind, I'm always willing to not immediatley dismiss it . . . There is no doubt that electical charges can attract certain chemical compounds - and this technology, albeit in a different way, is at the heart of ion exchange technology that allows a winery to cold stabilize their wines in a matter of hours instead of up to 2 weeks . . . I'm sure there are others out there who can explain things 'scientifically' better than me and perhaps conjure up other charged compounds that could be 'attracted' or 'repelled' using such technology . . . Cheers! Larry Schaffer tercero wines | |||
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Hi Larry I posted some factoids about the science behind this on my blog (I am also linking to this thread from that post). Also, there has been some more off-line discussion over the HA assay debate. I cannot comment on it now, but I hope that those I am talking with will add to that discussion thread. ____ Faith CAN move mountains... but you have to bring a shovel. redwinebuzz.com, winesooth.com, redwinebuzz.com/forum, twitter.com/redwinebuzz | |||
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A coworker of mine has a similar device and swears by it. | |||
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Just stick it in the microwave. ---------- "I was astonished to hear this, if only because I have never felt that loving Burgundy precluded one from loving Pinot Noirs—or any other wines—from elsewhere." -Matt Kramer | |||
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What Red Guy said -- and leave the capsule intact for a spectacular light show! "...there cannot lie too distant some Room where each of us may consult what former Vegetation pleases him?" | |||
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"The improvements reached their peak after 3minutes at 600 volts per centimetre: this left the wine well balanced and harmonious, with a nose of an aged wine and, importantly, still recognisably a cabernet sauvignon." I don't know if I like the caveat - still recognisably a cabernet sauvignon. I also wonder what the "aged wine nose" criteria was, even subjectively speaking. Guess I'd better grab some Chinese plonk and find out. | |||
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