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John Fones of Cellars 33 posted it up on FB. Apparently confirmed on Berzerkers website... Interesting in light of the release of a second label... If other highly-allocated wineries follow suit, it will be interesting to see the effect on sales. The Dude abides. | ||
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It seems to me that anyone who can't flip their wines without getting busted by the winery deserves to lose their allocation. PH | |||
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 It's an IQ tax.The Dude abides. | |||
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I love John Fones comment on the situation: "In light of the recent stories of folks being removed from the Screaming Eagle mailing list for flipping wines, Cellars 33 would like to announce that if you flip Cellars 33 wines for a profit, you will be... applauded and thanked!" Brilliant! The Dude abides. | |||
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How would they even find out - I have never seen any traceable factors like serial numbers on the crates or bottles - the only thing I can think of is direct shipment request to a wine store. | |||
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Or knuckleheads posting on non-anonymous wine boards.... PH | |||
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by TPEwinedrinker: If other highly-allocated wineries follow suit, [QUOTE] All six of them? Paul Romero (tlily)- Owner, Winemaker, Tour Guide Stefania Wine http://www.stefaniawine.com | |||
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anyone want any stefania's for pauls' price x 2??? now it's 7 ;-) This is my sig -> www.brownteacup.com www.wsqwine.com (Wine distributor) | |||
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clearly nothing is going to affect sales SQN has a waitlist that's what 7? years long. If they kick off these guys who are sharing allocations or flipping, guess what, there's clearly more people lined up behind them that would be waiting to buy. This is my sig -> www.brownteacup.com www.wsqwine.com (Wine distributor) | |||
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Personally, I would like to see more of this, although it would be incredibly difficult to police. | |||
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Six? You sure that isnt a bit high?  | |||
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I think Stefania is correct in 6 being flippable: SE SQN Marcassin Saxum KB Scarecrow Of those, I get an allocation of Scarecrow, I am wait listed on SE, and never bothered to sign up for the other 4, although I have bought a couple Saxums and SQNs on the secondary market. The Dude abides. | |||
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Agreed. You have to be pretty blatant to get busted. I think there also needs to be a distinction drawn between flippers and Good Samaritans. I've bought highly allocated wines at cost from friendly folk who are just looking to spread the wealth. Big difference between flippers and sharers, imo..... PH | |||
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+1. I have been fortunate to pick up other Members allocations at their cost for things I was looking for, when they wanted to pass. And I am talking about some of these 'Six' that could be flipped for profit A wise man once told me, "You never learn anything with your mouth running.." | |||
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If opportunity doesn't knock, build a door. | |||
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What's crazy is that SE actually believes that you should spend $750 a bottle and drink it.  | |||
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Rather petty and controlling of Screaming Eagle. I seriously doubt they are acting out of concern for the customer. | |||
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I agree if they made the wine to drink it would not be 750.00 a bottle. After all the first release was 50.00 a bottle. This is a trophy and flippping wine. Charging 750 for it eliminates many mailing list customers from opening them to drink. | |||
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There's got to be something illegal about what SE did. It's some sort of restraint of trade, isn't it? I guess they can choose who to sell to, but there's something weird and anti-capitalist in the whole thing. ******* Go Habs Go | |||
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Some of those may be something to flip, but I don't think that's the list. You can pick up Saxum and KB quite easily. The list might be more like: SE Bryant Harlan Colgin Schrader SQN Used to include QC, but Tbird killed that. As far as it being restraint of trade - why? They can make whatever rules they want for their mailing list. They're not prohibiting people from selling the wine, nor conspiring with their customers to limit the market. You can do whatever you want to with the wine you already have. They haven't restricted in any way what you do with your wine. And you have no "right" to future wine. So who's harmed? Now if only the Bordelais would adopt that approach. Oh wait. That's the entire point of Bordeaux.This message has been edited. Last edited by: GregT, "The best part is how he said the ENGLISH language. Fine irony. Use American next time." | |||
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You cannot flip Colgin for a profit in most cases. Or Harlan unless they get a 100 point score. I'd be surprised if you could flip Bryant as well. There were hundreds of bottles of Scarecrow for sale on the web for cost last release. Saxum is available but always above mailing list prices. Don't know about the others. The only wines that can be flipped almost every time are SE and SQN. That's it. <possibly Schrader too>This message has been edited. Last edited by: Gigond Ass, -------------------- "One may dislike carrots, spinach, beetroot, or the skin on hot milk. But not wine. It is like hating the air that one breathes, since each is equally indispensable." Marcel Ayme` | |||
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You may be right. What's Colgin going for to mailing list customers? Schrader sells. I know lots of people who've flipped those. But farther down the list, I think there are a lot of wines that have schizoid markets. Some people pay a lot on release, then people buy for more than that, and then you see them for far less later on. "The best part is how he said the ENGLISH language. Fine irony. Use American next time." | |||
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I don't know for sure. I think the single vineyard stuff is about $300 and the blends are about $225. -------------------- "One may dislike carrots, spinach, beetroot, or the skin on hot milk. But not wine. It is like hating the air that one breathes, since each is equally indispensable." Marcel Ayme` | |||
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$290 for all of the bottlings except the Syrah - $175. | |||
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Be careful TPEwinedrinker those wineries might kick you off the waiting list, if they find out you are buying on the secondary market ..  | |||
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