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I only want a few, 1-2 cases. I like the idea of early maturing wines.

Since 2007 will not sell well do I need to buy on futures to insure that I get the wines I want. Basically $15-$35 wines. I hate to do this because some are speculating that the 2007 wines will be sold at cost or below because retailers feel the need to purchase bad vintages so they get an allocation of good vintages. This probably would not apply to the wines I am buying though.

What are the rest of you doing with 2007?
 
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I would never say never, but I'm definitely not buying any futures. I will be very selective to perhaps continue a vertical that I started from the 2000 vintage.
 
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I will not be a buyer of 2007.
In fact, I wasn't a buyer of 2005. I'll be pushing daisies when that vintage is really ready, so my purchasing has been going in reverse on the vintage scale.
 
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Same philosophy as 2006. I might pick up some random bottles when they hit the stores, but nothing major unless the prices seriously drop. Don’t think futures are necessary unless there is something that’s hard to find that you really want to make sure you secure.


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No 2006 Futures and I will not get any 2007 either.

For the 2005 vintage I got a few QPR's and thats it.
Now some of the stuff that wasn't on futures is comming in here in Quebec, so I am also selecting some QPR's from those.
I will do the same when the 2006 and 2007 vintages show up on the market.


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As someone who bought big into 2005 and moderately into 2006 I plan on buying some more Sauternes in 2007, but only a few reds. I'm not sure if it will be necessary to buy any reds on futures but with the Sauternes I think it will be a good idea. Also, I need to make room in the cellar.
 
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I'll stick with my Poyferre, but that is it.


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Ignoring it.

2007 is exorbitantly priced.

If I want red Bordeaux that are ready to drink sooner, I can buy older wines nearing maturity at prices that are likely less than 2007.
 
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Nada. Bought about five mixed cases of '05. Foolish to buy something that probably won't be as good, and will cost more.


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Originally posted by KSC02:
I'll be pushing daisies when that vintage is really ready.

Funny KSC02, I always pictured you as a strapping young lad of say...68? Razz


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Originally posted by KSC02:
I'll be pushing daisies when that vintage is really ready.

Funny KSC02, I always pictured you as a strapping young lad of say...68? Razz

HA! Very funny! I may have exaggerated the scenario a bit. I'm a young 48, so I don't plan on going anywhere too soon. But I have no plans on sipping a 2005 First Growth through a straw either. Smile

That said, I do firmly believe that my dollars are more wisely spent purchasing good Bordeaux, with age, for often less than what's available coming to market at this time. The prices of the '05 vintage, and the weakness of the dollar sent me reversing direction quite some time ago.
 
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That said, I do firmly believe that my dollars are more wisely spent purchasing good Bordeaux, with age, for often less than what's available coming to market at this time. The prices of the '05 vintage, and the weakness of the dollar sent me reversing direction quite some time ago.


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Originally posted by KSC02:
I'll be pushing daisies when that vintage is really ready.

Funny KSC02, I always pictured you as a strapping young lad of say...68? Razz

HA! Very funny! I may have exaggerated the scenario a bit. I'm a young 48, so I don't plan on going anywhere too soon. But I have no plans on sipping a 2005 First Growth through a straw either. Smile

That said, I do firmly believe that my dollars are more wisely spent purchasing good Bordeaux, with age, for often less than what's available coming to market at this time. The prices of the '05 vintage, and the weakness of the dollar sent me reversing direction quite some time ago.

Sounds like a good plan to me.

Unfortunately, living in a state which controls wine sales, I can only purchase what they stock (and mark-up way too much). Therefore, 1996 through 2005 is all the Bordeaux that is available to me.

I noticed that you just picked up a 1985 LLC. I hope it is a great bottle.


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Nada. Bought about five mixed cases of '05. Foolish to buy something that probably won't be as good, and will cost more.


You would think that wouldn't you, but I can honestly see people opening their 05s that are sure to be the best thing ever in 7-15 years and saying "this could use another 7-15 years". I think there is bound to be some nice wines in 2007 that will be good in less than 7 (some a lot less) and some in more than 7 years.
 
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I noticed that you just picked up a 1985 LLC. I hope it is a great bottle.

As do I.
I purchased this in response to glowing comments about the '85 LLC from one of our illustrious members. Certainly, no guaranties on any bottle, but I was able to pick this up for a price below market and am greatly looking forward to sharing this fairly soon.
 
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I think if you wait the '07's will be crazy cheap. If you want early drinking and want to pay current '07 prices why not buy '01 or some '02? I think if you are looking at sub $40 '07's it could be difficult to find high quality but what do I know....I haven't tasted a one....
 
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Nada. Bought about five mixed cases of '05. Foolish to buy something that probably won't be as good, and will cost more.


You would think that wouldn't you, but I can honestly see people opening their 05s that are sure to be the best thing ever in 7-15 years and saying "this could use another 7-15 years". I think there is bound to be some nice wines in 2007 that will be good in less than 7 (some a lot less) and some in more than 7 years.


Sure, go for it. I'd rather hunt around for '02 or '04 wines that will probably be better buys, and will still satisfy during the down time before the '05s are ready.


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My final futures purchases were 2005. As most everyone said around here- there's no sense in paying more for 06 and 07 wines that aren't as good. I own a lot of bordeaux (about 600 bottles)- when I see my stocks getting low I'll worry about buying more to put away.


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Whites and stickies.


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Nothing.....


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Very low interest in this vintage.
 
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I usually buy my Bordeaux from premier cru on futures, but I'm going to wait on the 2007 vintage. Hopefully enough people will pass and they will have to lower the price when they are sitting on the wines instock at their storage facility.
 
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I usually buy my Bordeaux from premier cru on futures, but I'm going to wait on the 2007 vintage. Hopefully enough people will pass and they will have to lower the price when they are sitting on the wines instock at their storage facility.

Oh, you are a sly dog aren't you?
 
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I usually buy my Bordeaux from premier cru on futures, but I'm going to wait on the 2007 vintage. Hopefully enough people will pass and they will have to lower the price when they are sitting on the wines instock at their storage facility.


The only problem with that strategy is that I am afraid that if I do that, in my price range, there will be nothing but shit left.
 
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I think the sauternes are fairly reasonable, but not sure how much sense futures makes.
 
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