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My wife and I took my elderly parents and my 13 year old nephew out to a fairly decent restaurant tonight for dinner. The food and the company were great, but our evening was marred by a table of 8 men next to us which started out being just a bit loud, but by their sixth bottle of wine became outright obnoxious. They were using foul language and their conversational topics became increasingly profane. Finally, we asked the waiter if we could move to a different part of the restaurant to have our desserts.

What is the proper protocol for a restaurant if something like this is happening and nearby diners are clearly not enjoying this display of juvenile, drunken behaviour? My dad kept telling me to put up with it because if we tried to complain we'd get beaten up! I'm glad we decided to move, but I really wish we didn't have to.


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I want to know what restaurant you go to. They were allowed to drink 6 bottles of wine, and you got to sit there that long also. In Colorado, the main rule is: Flip that table.

Eight guys would have never been allowed to have more than 2 bottles before the waiter/ess had them moved to the lounge. Mgt. here is paying bonuses for moving people out in less than 50 minutes.

It would be nice to be allowed to sit at a table long enough to enjoy the meal, no less long enough to complain.
 
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It was actually a slow night (Tuesday) so there really was no rush. My wife and I have dined there before (Ric's Grill Terwillegar here in Edmonton) and have always managed to enjoy a 2-3 hour meal. Just had bad luck tonight next to this table. Guess I'll think twice about dining in Colorado!


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I have asked people to quiet down in a polite manner on several occasions. Normally either dining with my girlfriend or my mother. I think of it in a similar manner as asking people at the library at my school to quiet down as they're talking loudly about a weekend of partying.

I think the key is to be polite about it, and not stoop to their level (Hey... shut the @%!* up!), in which case you hope they are embarrassed by their behavior. If they then shrug you off, the management should get involved (assuming you are being reasonable).

Also, if I were out with 7 of my buddies, and the management of the restaurant asked us to move after ordering two bottles with dinner ( a glass each) I'd be pretty pissed about it. Bonuses for moving people out in 50 minutes!? Thats ridiculous; I'm glad I live where i do, where the "bonus" a server is counting on is a nice tip based on good service.
 
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Eight guys would have never been allowed to have more than 2 bottles before the waiter/ess had them moved to the lounge.


That's not believable.


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It is the responsibility of the restaurant to maintain order. Thus, you should not confront the diners directly, but rather note the problem to the waiter, then up the chain.

The restaurant can move you, move them, throw them out, whatever.


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Board-O. Beleive it, I could list numerous restaurants here in the area that are ridiculous, the Denver Chop House being the worst in town. If you stop eating to talk to someone, they come up to snatch your plate without asking. You have to physically stop them and then tell them your not finished, or the plate is gone. Next comes by the waiter: "Your main entre will be out in a minute, would you like coffee and dessert". If you hesitate in answering then: "Well, here is your bill, please feel free to enjoy after dinner drinks in the lounge". How about a 3 course meal and a bottle of wine and standing on the street 37 minutes after you walked in? They must have tried 4-5 times to take my dinner plate when I stopped eating to talk to my wife!

Slow nites don't matter here. To many places here practice FTT regardless. They don't want you to believe you can ever sit at one of their tables for an hour, even on a slow nite.

I could tell horror stories glour, but there are only a few restaurants in town, that allow you a leisurely dinner of 1.25-1.5 hrs.
 
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My wife and I took my elderly parents and my 13 year old nephew out to a fairly decent restaurant tonight for dinner. The food and the company were great, but our evening was marred by a table of 8 men next to us which started out being just a bit loud, but by their sixth bottle of wine became outright obnoxious. They were using foul language and their conversational topics became increasingly profane. Finally, we asked the waiter if we could move to a different part of the restaurant to have our desserts.

What is the proper protocol for a restaurant if something like this is happening and nearby diners are clearly not enjoying this display of juvenile, drunken behaviour? My dad kept telling me to put up with it because if we tried to complain we'd get beaten up! I'm glad we decided to move, but I really wish we didn't have to.


Were they middle eastern? Big Grin


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Oh you're in Edmonton, that'll do it. Wink
 
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I have leaned over to a member of a loud, partying group and said, "Hey guys, I have my kids with me, can we watch the F-Bombs?" They almost always apologize and pay a little more attention to their volume. <ost people get progressively louder as the wine flows and they are having fun. Sometimes they don't realize they are so loud - they are so into the moment.


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were they smelly too?
 
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My wife and I took my elderly parents and my 13 year old nephew out to a fairly decent restaurant tonight for dinner. The food and the company were great, but our evening was marred by a table of 8 men next to us which started out being just a bit loud, but by their sixth bottle of wine became outright obnoxious. They were using foul language and their conversational topics became increasingly profane. Finally, we asked the waiter if we could move to a different part of the restaurant to have our desserts.

What is the proper protocol for a restaurant if something like this is happening and nearby diners are clearly not enjoying this display of juvenile, drunken behaviour? My dad kept telling me to put up with it because if we tried to complain we'd get beaten up! I'm glad we decided to move, but I really wish we didn't have to.


Was this at Peking Duck House in Chinatown last night? If yes, I'm sorry! Big Grin


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I have leaned over to a member of a loud, partying group and said, "Hey guys, I have my kids with me, can we watch the F-Bombs?" They almost always apologize and pay a little more attention to their volume.


I have been in the same exact situation, and it is usually resolved the same way. If the behavior doesn't change, then notify management....


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They were probably a bunch of business men buddies that were yucking it up and getting drunk who figured since they were spending alot of money they could act inappropiately. I would ask the waiter to have the manager on duty come to my table and tell him what was going on and have him tell them to tone it down. You should not have to move your party to a different table because others were being rude.
 
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Originally posted by michaelyan:
My wife and I took my elderly parents and my 13 year old nephew out to a fairly decent restaurant tonight for dinner. The food and the company were great, but our evening was marred by a table of 8 men next to us which started out being just a bit loud, but by their sixth bottle of wine became outright obnoxious. They were using foul language and their conversational topics became increasingly profane. Finally, we asked the waiter if we could move to a different part of the restaurant to have our desserts.

What is the proper protocol for a restaurant if something like this is happening and nearby diners are clearly not enjoying this display of juvenile, drunken behaviour? My dad kept telling me to put up with it because if we tried to complain we'd get beaten up! I'm glad we decided to move, but I really wish we didn't have to.


Was this at Peking Duck House in Chinatown last night? If yes, I'm sorry! Big Grin

Thank god they didn't bring us a fresh pot of tea!
 
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What is the proper protocol for a restaurant if something like this is happening and nearby diners are clearly not enjoying this display of juvenile, drunken behaviour?


I find this method is highly effective.


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Originally posted by michaelyan:
My wife and I took my elderly parents and my 13 year old nephew out to a fairly decent restaurant tonight for dinner. The food and the company were great, but our evening was marred by a table of 8 men next to us which started out being just a bit loud, but by their sixth bottle of wine became outright obnoxious. They were using foul language and their conversational topics became increasingly profane. Finally, we asked the waiter if we could move to a different part of the restaurant to have our desserts.

What is the proper protocol for a restaurant if something like this is happening and nearby diners are clearly not enjoying this display of juvenile, drunken behaviour? My dad kept telling me to put up with it because if we tried to complain we'd get beaten up! I'm glad we decided to move, but I really wish we didn't have to.


Was this at Peking Duck House in Chinatown last night? If yes, I'm sorry! Big Grin

Thank god they didn't bring us a fresh pot of tea!


i almost made an extra $1,150! Eek


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Board-O. Beleive it, I could list numerous restaurants here in the area that are ridiculous, the Denver Chop House being the worst in town. If you stop eating to talk to someone, they come up to snatch your plate without asking. You have to physically stop them and then tell them your not finished, or the plate is gone. Next comes by the waiter: "Your main entre will be out in a minute, would you like coffee and dessert". If you hesitate in answering then: "Well, here is your bill, please feel free to enjoy after dinner drinks in the lounge". How about a 3 course meal and a bottle of wine and standing on the street 37 minutes after you walked in? They must have tried 4-5 times to take my dinner plate when I stopped eating to talk to my wife!

Slow nites don't matter here. To many places here practice FTT regardless. They don't want you to believe you can ever sit at one of their tables for an hour, even on a slow nite.

I could tell horror stories glour, but there are only a few restaurants in town, that allow you a leisurely dinner of 1.25-1.5 hrs.


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Board-O. Beleive it, I could list numerous restaurants here in the area that are ridiculous, the Denver Chop House being the worst in town. If you stop eating to talk to someone, they come up to snatch your plate without asking. You have to physically stop them and then tell them your not finished, or the plate is gone. Next comes by the waiter: "Your main entre will be out in a minute, would you like coffee and dessert". If you hesitate in answering then: "Well, here is your bill, please feel free to enjoy after dinner drinks in the lounge". How about a 3 course meal and a bottle of wine and standing on the street 37 minutes after you walked in? They must have tried 4-5 times to take my dinner plate when I stopped eating to talk to my wife!

Slow nites don't matter here. To many places here practice FTT regardless. They don't want you to believe you can ever sit at one of their tables for an hour, even on a slow nite.

I could tell horror stories glour, but there are only a few restaurants in town, that allow you a leisurely dinner of 1.25-1.5 hrs.


Don't get the wrong impression, not everywhere in CO is like this. The Boulder Chop House is an excellent place I've been to multiple times, and was never rushed. When you get into the LoDo or Cherry Creek area though they do rush you a bit, but I have never experienced as badly as you describe Sandy.
 
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One table of eight (drunk) guys. I think you could wrestle up enough patrons and waiters to take them. Or if you are Jackie Chan, you could take on all eight yourself.
 
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mjraica; we're coming up to Boulder in a couple of weeks. L'Atelier, has been getting rave reviews, so we're making the drive. Don't know if we need to get a room or drive back. Guess that depends on how good I plan on being. Do you have experience there?

Add Yia, Yia's in the Tech Center to the bad boy list. It happened to me and then to other friends on different nites, the wait staff wouldn't deliver wine or drinks, until the complete meal was ordered. It's like they're playing some child's game to FTT! We haven't been back since. Plus they had the fake wine list which added more suspense to the evening.
 
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Nope, sorry no experience there. I will recommend a place up in Longmont though. It's a new place called Terroir. I met the owner and head chef at the Boulder WineFest. Really nice people and the food wasn't bad. Not sure where you're coming from but it might be worth it on a longer trip to the area.
 
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