I eat much less red meat now, which for the purposes of my discussion here means beef, than I once did. I was reading a magazine last year at some point, I can’t remember what magazine it was, and there was an article about things you should try to do at some point in your life. One of the items suggested was to go vegetarian for one month. At the beginning of 2008 my wife and I said that through the month of January we would not eat beef, pork, poultry, or lamb. The only meat that we ate was seafood so I guess we cheated somewhat. However, I still have not eaten any beef in 2008 and have had chicken only once. I do not have plans to totally eliminate beef because I love it too much but I am going to make an effort to scale back the amount of beef that I eat. I once ate beef 4 or 5 times per week but have no plans to do that again. I once used to believe that, because I exercise quite a bit, I could eat just about anything I wanted to and I would still maintain a high degree of health. I now believe that there is just too much valid research and literature showing the detrimental effects of beef on cardiac health.

Altaholic, I agree with you on the effects of too much saturated fat on cardiac health. Moderation is key. So is exercise.

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Originally posted by Hunter:

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Including everything but chicken and fish, I probably eat “red” meat 4-5 times a week.

Now THAT's an honest answer

Not sure I'm buying into Bez, Irwin and IndyBob up there for 3 meals+ per day where it works out to red meat once a week, 3 times a month or "almost never".

Who's counting that Roast Beef sandwich at the deli for lunch when you had that healthy grilled chicken for dinner.

I agree. I think some people have select memory and are excluding taco night, pasta with meat sauce and that quick hamburger they had while on the run.

Hunter, GlennK,

Nope, no selective memory here. I know what I eat. In the last two years, I've had red meat three times, twice at Thanksgiving, and last March, I had an In and Out Double Double when I was in Ventura for work. In the past 18 years, I've had red meat about a dozen times, and pork once (in a migrant farmworker's camp--- I felt guilty refusing the sweet abuela who prepared it). I was all Veg all the time for about 10 years, but missed seafood too much, so I have it a few times a week, and have poultry rarely.

I'm in great health, and feel good. It works for me, more meat works for other people, no problemo.

Like Een, in that I don't give much thought about what anybody else eats. IMO, neither should anybody else.

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Originally posted by indybob:
Hunter, GlennK,

Nope, no selective memory here. I know what I eat. In the last two years, I've had red meat three times, twice at Thanksgiving, and last March, I had an In and Out Double Double when I was in Ventura for work. In the past 18 years, I've had red meat about a dozen times, and pork once (in a migrant farmworker's camp--- I felt guilty refusing the sweet abuela who prepared it). I was all Veg all the time for about 10 years, but missed seafood too much, so I have it a few times a week, and have poultry rarely.

I'm in great health, and feel good. It works for me, more meat works for other people, no problemo.

Like Een, in that I don't give much thought about what anybody else eats. IMO, neither should anybody else.

I still don’t believe you

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Originally posted by GlennK:
I still don’t believe you

Well, back.

Glennk, why don't you believe him?

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Originally posted by Een:
I was never the type of vegetarian who looked down on others for their choices (except for people who ordered their steaks well done!)

My kind of vegetarian!!

PH

Steak: About once per week. I need something to go with the Cab.

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Originally posted by indybob:
Hunter, GlennK,

Nope, no selective memory here. I know what I eat. In the last two years, I've had red meat three times, twice at Thanksgiving, and last March, I had an In and Out Double Double when I was in Ventura for work. In the past 18 years, I've had red meat about a dozen times, and pork once (in a migrant farmworker's camp--- I felt guilty refusing the sweet abuela who prepared it). I was all Veg all the time for about 10 years, but missed seafood too much, so I have it a few times a week, and have poultry rarely.

I'm in great health, and feel good. It works for me, more meat works for other people, no problemo.

Like Een, in that I don't give much thought about what anybody else eats. IMO, neither should anybody else.

The Double Double from In and Out would be the deal breaker if I ever considered going Vegetarian. Well that and the Carne Asada burrito from Roberto's, prime Delmonico fresh off the grill, fried pork chops, barbaque ribs, etc.

with the wife only eats turkey an chicken
i am not cooking two meals!
to night mac n cheese w/ brocc
the meat will be the lewis merlot!(2005)

and be for the kid were born she was a veggie !
an i would only have it on the weekends or when we went out!
oh did i forget she doesn't eat any sea food !

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Originally posted by Een:
Glennk, why don't you believe him?

I am kidding

I figured that out after I posted. I'm in class right now and am being too earnest!

And yes, I'm posting during class. Bad. Very bad.

I had pan seared duck breast last night as a treat! If that counts as red meat!

Hunter...
I don't eat meat at breakfast.....never. No sausage, bacon, never. I do eat yogurt, herring, cheese, cereals and eggs.
For lunch, I typically have either a chicken caesar salad, greek salad, or sometimes a turkey sandwhich. I don't eat hamburgers at lunch, nor roast beef.
For dinner, at least once or twice a week I eat vegetarian stuff.....Either veggie soy meatballs, or salads, or spinach pie. I might eat sushi. If I get Chinese food, it's typically a chicken dish. But, every once in a while, I'll eat a steak, meatloaf, or beef ribs. And, sometimes lamb or veal.
But, also there is fish.
So, I am sticking with the one time a week estimate.
If it weren't for Gentleman Farmer's cheesecake and genetics, I'd be svelte.
But, please don't suggest that I am dishonest. I am, after all, a lawyer.

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Originally posted by KSC02:
Love it as well. What better to pair Cabs and Syrahs that beg for red meat. However, for the same general health reasons, I limit it to 1 or 2 times a month, average.

All right, All right. Ya got me.

IF I MUST include bacon with my eggs, pepperoni on pizza etc. I suppose it would come up to 1 or 2 times per week. I was thinking of sitting down to enjoy a steak, but a good point is made. It's easy to forget about all the smaller amounts we take in more regularly. However, there is a point in that those amounts are indeed very small. I would think, logically, that the amount DOES make a large difference. Likewise, when we DO sit down for a grand steak, do we consume a huge piece, or a smaller, more easily ingested portion. The body can only ingest so much, with the rest turning quickly to fat.

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Originally posted by Red guy in a blue state:

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Originally posted by indybob:
I had an In and Out Double Double when I was in Ventura for work.

The Double Double from In and Out would be the deal breaker if I ever considered going Vegetarian.

Ha! It was pretty damn good, I'll admit, but funny thing is I never crave red meat, except during times when I've got something unusually stressful going on. With the Double Double, it was the death of a family member. About ten years earlier, I "fell off the wagon" with a double whopper w/chz when I found out my best friend was in a terrible car crash. Weird.

Since I make the best meatballs and steak in the state, about 3 times per week We mix it up with a lot of fish and whole grains.

Almost never

Two or three times per year, I snap and tuck into a rare steak, or a big angus burger. Other times I cut out the middle man and just mainline a few ounces of arterial plaque.

Full blown carnivore, here!

I eat red meat as often as I like (minimum 3-4 times per week).

As far as health effects, that's why I drink a lot of wine - to counter any ill effects of red meat.

Working for me so far!

Usually a couple times a week....

twice a day

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Originally posted by indybob:

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Originally posted by Red guy in a blue state:

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Originally posted by indybob:
I had an In and Out Double Double when I was in Ventura for work.

The Double Double from In and Out would be the deal breaker if I ever considered going Vegetarian.

Ha! It was pretty damn good, I'll admit, but funny thing is I never crave red meat, except during times when I've got something unusually stressful going on. With the Double Double, it was the death of a family member. About ten years earlier, I "fell off the wagon" with a double whopper w/chz when I found out my best friend was in a terrible car crash. Weird.

That is why they call it comfort food. Hopefully, you won't be having burgers any time soon (unless it is for the pure joy of it).