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quote: Originally posted by finz: I've developed lactose intolerance and was wondering what non cows milk cheeses others recommend. Right now I'm partial to manchego but aren't sure of any others I should seek out (I dont really care for the very soft 'squishy' cheeses)
Try a goat gouda or Carr Valley goat cheddar.
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quote: Originally posted by finz: I've developed lactose intolerance and was wondering what non cows milk cheeses others recommend. Right now I'm partial to manchego but aren't sure of any others I should seek out (I dont really care for the very soft 'squishy' cheeses)
Also, if you are near a Whole Foods, check out their cheese departmrnt. They should ahave a wide array of sheep and goat milk cheeses that are not of the soft-ripened variety. They are also open to letting you taste before you purchase, so don't be afraid to ask for a taste.
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Anything by Cypress Grove chevre, the fresher the better. They make a couple of harder varieties if soft chevre isn't your thing.
-IB
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quote: Originally posted by indybob: Anything by Cypress Grove chevre, the fresher the better.
Sorry indy, but Cypress Grove is by far just an average, overpriced cheese maker/company. Their product is very commercialized. There are far better artisinal companies out there. Coach Farms, Sweet Grass, Cowgirl Creamery, Appleton Creamery and Pure Luck to name a few.
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Ok.  Besides, I think of "everyday" as implying it's pretty easy to find.
-IB
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| Posts: 6180 | Location: Naptown | Registered: Nov 24, 2006 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by indybob: Ok.  Besides, I think of "everyday" as implying it's pretty easy to find.
Ok Mr. Gump...and even as you siad, fresher the better. Most places that sell the crap is selling stuff that is FAR from fresh. There are many chese that are easy to find, but the point of recommending something is recommending a quality product, not one that is, as you put ot, "easy to find" (hence the commercialization I mentioned earlier). And as I said also, quite pricey for a commercialized product.
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Idiazabel. Spanish sheep cheese. Garotxa. Spanish goat cheese.
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Isn't there lactose in sheep and goat milk? +1 on the Cowgirl Creamery range. +1 on buying your cheese at Whole Paycheck.
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| Posts: 6577 | Location: Santa Clara Valley AVA | Registered: Jul 02, 2004 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by inky: quote: Originally posted by indybob: Ok.  Besides, I think of "everyday" as implying it's pretty easy to find.
Ok Mr. Gump...and even as you siad, fresher the better. Most places that sell the crap is selling stuff that is FAR from fresh. There are many chese that are easy to find, but the point of recommending something is recommending a quality product, not one that is, as you put ot, "easy to find" (hence the commercialization I mentioned earlier). And as I said also, quite pricey for a commercialized product.
If you want to make "easy to find," commercialized (whatever that means), and poor quality, equal, I guess you can. I do hear you on the freshness though. I'd submit that you've never had really fresh Cypress Grove Chevre. I went to college where it is made, and have had sublime experiences with their products. I didn't think I could get good CGC in the midwest (where I live now), but found a nice block of it at Jungle Jim's in Cincinnati the other week. If finz can get fresh product, it's a good buy, at just about any price. 
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| Posts: 6180 | Location: Naptown | Registered: Nov 24, 2006 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by Dave Tong BBP: Isn't there lactose in sheep and goat milk?
+1 on the Cowgirl Creamery range. +1 on buying your cheese at Whole Paycheck.
Yes but it's slightly different than cow's milk. Some people that can't tolerate milk from cows can eat/drink sheep or goat's milk.
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quote: Originally posted by Gigond Ass: quote: Originally posted by Dave Tong BBP: Isn't there lactose in sheep and goat milk?
+1 on the Cowgirl Creamery range. +1 on buying your cheese at Whole Paycheck.
Yes but it's slightly different than cow's milk. Some people that can't tolerate milk from cows can eat/drink sheep or goat's milk.
My better half is in this boat. Apparently it is a combination of lactose and certain enzymes which are present in cow's milk, but not sheep or goat. Some sheep's milk cheeses we enjoy other than those mentioned above Savello (Italy) Etorki (France) Petit Basque (France) Roquefort (France) Greek Feta And of course there is Mozzarello di Bufala. I like goat cheese, but it really limits the wines you can match with it.
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| Posts: 5619 | Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada | Registered: Dec 25, 2003 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by steve8: quote: Originally posted by Gigond Ass: quote: Originally posted by Dave Tong BBP: Isn't there lactose in sheep and goat milk?
+1 on the Cowgirl Creamery range. +1 on buying your cheese at Whole Paycheck.
Yes but it's slightly different than cow's milk. Some people that can't tolerate milk from cows can eat/drink sheep or goat's milk.
My better half is in this boat. Apparently it is a combination of lactose and certain enzymes which are present in cow's milk, but not sheep or goat. Some sheep's milk cheeses we enjoy other than those mentioned above Savello (Italy) Etorki (France) Petit Basque (France) Roquefort (France) Greek Feta And of course there is Mozzarello di Bufala. I like goat cheese, but it really limits the wines you can match with it.
I would highly recommend you search out Coach Farms' (upstate New York) goat triple creme. It is by far the best goat, or triple creme for that matter, that I have ever tasted. Also, since you mentioned goat is hard to pair with wine, well, as long as you get this fresh, this cheese is easy to pair with wine. It does not carry that "usual" goat characteristic you are used to. It is an amazing, "clean" taste unlike any goat or sift ripened cheese you will ever taste. It is pricey but well worth the treat.
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quote: Originally posted by inky: I would highly recommend you search out Coach Farms' (upstate New York) goat triple creme. It is by far the best goat, or triple creme for that matter, that I have ever tasted.
Next time I'm driving I-87, I'll make the detour to get some. Thanks.
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