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quote: Originally posted by blondie19: Thanks so much, I will try to do that.
Do, or do not. There is no try.  PH
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| Posts: 9259 | Location: Maryland, USA (DC suburbs) | Registered: Nov 22, 2003 |    |
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quote: Hunter,
Why? Should I give up on my Pinots?
Not at all - especially if you mean Pinot Noir. The only true Pinot! Seriously, Pinot Grigio is a very simple wine with little variation. You should certainly still enjoy it and you should always drink what you like - without apology, but I wouldn't chase too many producers with it or search for hidden gems in the Pinot Grigio world. There are some that do it a little better than others, but even a perfect Pinot Grigio is an 85 point simple wine. This board will help you tremendously in the other varietals that have more character and uniqueness. Whites like White Burgundy, Riesling, US Chardonnay and New Zealand SB can offer mcuh more in variety and enjoyment.
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| Posts: 7106 | Location: Long Island, NY | Registered: Sep 27, 2003 |    |
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quote: Your Pinot Grigios are a good starting point, however you might find other varietals will give you some more complex and interesting flavor profiles. There are examples of Pinot Gris (same grape by another name) that can be sublime, however they are not inexpensive. Look to Chardonnay, Riesling & Sauvignon Blanc for some horizon expanding flavors.
In other words: What Hunter said. 
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| Posts: 7106 | Location: Long Island, NY | Registered: Sep 27, 2003 |    |
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I kind of disagree with Hunter and PurplHaze. Pinot Grigio can account for some excellent wines and although there might be little variation when you reach a certain level of quality, the same goes for Sauvignon Blanc from a pretty broad region as well. That's not to say I don't love Sauvignon Blanc, but it's nowhere near as diverse as Riesling. Also, there are few varietal wines that are so versatile when it comes to wine/food combinations. If you're in doubt, go for a Pinot Gris. Also, tastes are tastes, forget pointsnobbery. If you like something - it's never wrong. That's not to say you shouldn't expand your horizons. For example, I love Astis and that's a "girly wine" if anything is. It might have something to do with me never having drunk it as a teenager like so many people do, but I really think it's a fantastic wine with a deep spectrum of flavours. Don't laugh at me!! 
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| Posts: 113 | Location: Grythyttan, Sweden | Registered: May 22, 2006 |    |
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quote: Great minds!
Yes, these great minds have to hook up soon. I've been keeping an eye on your last few Maryland OL threads. I have a few clients in DC I could see. This month's gathering was the only bad weekend for me.
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| Posts: 7106 | Location: Long Island, NY | Registered: Sep 27, 2003 |    |
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quote: the same goes for Sauvignon Blanc from a pretty broad region as well.
I'd agree with that. However, I would put the best 5 NZ SB's against the best 5 Pinot Grigios any day of the week, but they are not complex wines.
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| Posts: 7106 | Location: Long Island, NY | Registered: Sep 27, 2003 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by thorn: I kind of disagree with Hunter and PurplHaze. Pinot Grigio can account for some excellent wines and although there might be little variation when you reach a certain level of quality, the same goes for Sauvignon Blanc from a pretty broad region as well. That's not to say I don't love Sauvignon Blanc, but it's nowhere near as diverse as Riesling. Also, there are few varietal wines that are so versatile when it comes to wine/food combinations. If you're in doubt, go for a Pinot Gris. Also, tastes are tastes, forget pointsnobbery. If you like something - it's never wrong. That's not to say you shouldn't expand your horizons. For example, I love Astis and that's a "girly wine" if anything is. It might have something to do with me never having drunk it as a teenager like so many people do, but I really think it's a fantastic wine with a deep spectrum of flavours. Don't laugh at me!!
I'm not laughing, I'm too new to laugh at anything, if anything I feel weird and dumb because I don't know a lot. So what about Bordeaux? My boyfriend loves Merlots but I just can't get into them - way too oaky for me.
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| Posts: 17 | Location: NY | Registered: Oct 25, 2006 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by Hunter: quote: the same goes for Sauvignon Blanc from a pretty broad region as well.
I'd agree with that. However, I would put the best 5 NZ SB's against the best 5 Pinot Grigios any day of the week, but they are not complex wines.
I agree with you, I have a thing for NZ Sauvignon Blancs.  But like I mentioned before, a good Pinot Gris is a really versatile companion and a restaurants best friend. As for Bordeaux, I'm not rich enough to buy the really good Cru Classe wines. Fruitdriven Merlots aren't really my thing though, I'm more of a Médoc man. There is some good value in Cru Borgeouis but if you can afford it, go for the better (but mature!) wines.
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| Posts: 113 | Location: Grythyttan, Sweden | Registered: May 22, 2006 |    |
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quote: I'm not laughing, I'm too new to laugh at anything, if anything I feel weird and dumb because I don't know a lot. So what about Bordeaux? My boyfriend loves Merlots but I just can't get into them - way too oaky for me.
Try Steltzner Stag's Leap (California). It's my favorite under $40 Merlot. Not oaky at all. Real good. For me with Merlot, there really is nothing in the $20-$25 or under range that's anything special. Go $50 or so and you hit the real nice ones (Pride, Switchback, Paloma etc)
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| Posts: 7106 | Location: Long Island, NY | Registered: Sep 27, 2003 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by PurpleHaze: There are examples of Pinot Gris (same grape by another name) PH
How'z about trying some stuff from Alsace?
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quote: Originally posted by zuma: quote: Originally posted by PurpleHaze: There are examples of Pinot Gris (same grape by another name) PH
How'z about trying some stuff from Alsace?
Bingo. Exactly what I was referring to. quote: Originally posted by Hunter: Yes, these great minds have to hook up soon. I've been keeping an eye on your last few Maryland OL threads. I have a few clients in DC I could see. This month's gathering was the only bad weekend for me.
It'd be great to have you.  We'll be organizing November pretty soon. Keep an eye out! PH
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| Posts: 9259 | Location: Maryland, USA (DC suburbs) | Registered: Nov 22, 2003 |    |
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Try the Kim Crawford from NZ (about $14) and the Elk Cove from OR (about $16, I think).
Just one more sip.
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My wife really likes Pinot so I can't make fun of you but I can say that I don't really like it all that much and haven't found a lot of variation in it either.
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quote: Originally posted by Board-O: Try the Kim Crawford from NZ (about $14) and the Elk Cove from OR (about $16, I think).
Thanks Board-o  Do you like Pinot Gris?
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| Posts: 17 | Location: NY | Registered: Oct 25, 2006 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by blondie19: PH I will try some Pinot Gris from Alsace. Thanks! All comments and suggestions are greatly appreciated
Good luck. As mentioned earlier, the really good ones are really expensive. Do have some fun with the SB's, Reislings and Chardonnays. Don't write off Chardonnay. There are a ton of variations on the theme. PH
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| Posts: 9259 | Location: Maryland, USA (DC suburbs) | Registered: Nov 22, 2003 |    |
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