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I am curious about any personal experiences with decanting a bottle in advance of BYOW. Perhaps a wine on the younger side that might benefit from 3hours+. Is it permitted, discouraged? I assume it is illegal to drive with open alcohol in your car... but I am concerned with the restaurant's point of view.
 
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I've personally done it on several occasions. I just do my best to fasten the cork as far back into the bottle as possible before leaving my apartment. In most cases I comment to the waiter the I opened the bottle earlier that day to let it breathe. I've never had anyone give me any sort of bad vibe for doing it and don't see why they would.... my two cents Smile
 
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Do it all the time, no problems.
 
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Why would the restaurant care at all? If they let you bring your own, how does it matter to them if you've decanted it or not? I've done it, especially with Port.
 
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Sweatred, unfortunately for you, I think you live in one of the few places where you are not allowed to bring an open bottle into the restaurant. Hopefully, some of the other Ontario forumites will chime in, but I seem to recall going to several off-line events in Ontario and the locals told us we couldn't decant.
 
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Sweatred, unfortunately for you, I think you live in one of the few places where you are not allowed to bring an open bottle into the restaurant.

This is true in California as well.
 
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seriously? i have never had anyone point that out in the trizillion times i've byob'd a decanted wine... Confused

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Originally posted by SD-Wineaux:
This is true in California as well.


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Sweatred, unfortunately for you, I think you live in one of the few places where you are not allowed to bring an open bottle into the restaurant. Hopefully, some of the other Ontario forumites will chime in, but I seem to recall going to several off-line events in Ontario and the locals told us we couldn't decant.
Steve is correct. Some restaurants will even make a point of telling you to make sure the bottle has not been opened before you hand it over to them. In many other jurisdictions they seem to rely more on common sense than we do here in Ontario.
 
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I do it here all the time in mpls and you can take any bottles home you purchased at the restaurant as well as long as it has been opened. Putting the wine in the trunk on the way home is encouraged.
 
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Well if there's a law that specifically addresses the issue, I guess that's another story. Then bring a wine you don't need to decant. Or, when you open wines at home, see if you can take the capsules off whole. Save those. When you decant, just push the cork all the way back in and put the whole capsule back on.

How many cops are trained to look closely at the packaging of fine wine?

Good luck and if you get arrested anyway, remember, this is not legal advice!
 
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seriously? i have never had anyone point that out in the trizillion times i've byob'd a decanted wine... Confused

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Originally posted by SD-Wineaux:
This is true in California as well.

It happened to me at an otherwise very BYOB-friendly restaurant. I brought in a double-decanted wine with the cork only half pushed back in and, for maybe the first time ever, didn't carry it in my bag. The waitress eyed it, went and talked with the manager, and came back to say the bottle couldn't be allowed in due to ABC rules.

At the time, I had my doubts about this. But after investigating it the next day I couldn't find anything to confirm or deny their reading of the law. But based on your question, I shot an e-mail to the kind folks at the CA ABC and here's their response.
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Neither the Alcoholic Beverage Control Act nor our business regulations specifically allows the practice of an adult customer bringing a personal bottle of wine into a properly licensed premises (“BYOB”). On the other hand, nothing specifically precludes the practice. A licensee may or may not permit BYOB as he or she sees fit. While a restaurant manager may not have any problem permitting BYOB, it is possible that for other (non-ABC) reasons these managers may insist on his/her wait staff opening the bottle of wine inside the restaurant. You may want to discuss this matter with the restaurant owner or manager if you have not already done so.

So it looks like I (and the waitress) were wrong. It's not against the law, but is completely at the discretion of the restaurant.
 
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Originally posted by SD-Wineaux:
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Originally posted by TBird:
seriously? i have never had anyone point that out in the trizillion times i've byob'd a decanted wine... Confused

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Originally posted by SD-Wineaux:
This is true in California as well.

It happened to me at an otherwise very BYOB-friendly restaurant. I brought in a double-decanted wine with the cork only half pushed back in and, for maybe the first time ever, didn't carry it in my bag. The waitress eyed it, went and talked with the manager, and came back to say the bottle couldn't be allowed in due to ABC rules.

At the time, I had my doubts about this. But after investigating it the next day I couldn't find anything to confirm or deny their reading of the law. But based on your question, I shot an e-mail to the kind folks at the CA ABC and here's their response.
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Neither the Alcoholic Beverage Control Act nor our business regulations specifically allows the practice of an adult customer bringing a personal bottle of wine into a properly licensed premises (“BYOB”). On the other hand, nothing specifically precludes the practice. A licensee may or may not permit BYOB as he or she sees fit. While a restaurant manager may not have any problem permitting BYOB, it is possible that for other (non-ABC) reasons these managers may insist on his/her wait staff opening the bottle of wine inside the restaurant. You may want to discuss this matter with the restaurant owner or manager if you have not already done so.

So it looks like I (and the waitress) were wrong. It's not against the law, but is completely at the discretion of the restaurant.


I remember that day SD, but I think we won out in the end.... Wink

I have had it happen at another restaurant in my hood.. Although they claimed it was the law, I felt at the time it was more their policy.
 
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I often double decant red wines before taking them to restaurants that permit BYOB/corkage. I've never had any problem here in the Los Angeles area.


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