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and other goofy names.

We've all seen them- goat's do roam, yellow tail, our daily red , etc..........

How are they classified in the store (what do ya call them)?

Not regional, not varietal, what? They are usually blends- the stores seem to put them all over.

I have called them novelty wines- for lack of a better term.

Anyone?
 
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goat's do roam- South African rendition of a French Cotes Du Rhone, a blend of Movedre, Grenache and Syrah.

yellow tail- Mass marketed Australian wine. Shiraz, Merlot and Chardonnay among others if I am not mistaken, in other words all varitel.

our daily red- sounds like a red table wine or blend.

I would not call them novelty wines based on the fact they are blends, blends are great. The Yellow Tail is not to popular in these parts though.
 
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Novelty names started simply because it gave the wine a "look at me! look at me!" presense in the store display. D'Arenberg are the innovator for these names.

Having said that there is a usually is secondary line in title in which the varietal is stated.

Most wine stores sort wines by
a) Country, then
b) Varietal
Some wine stores only sort wine by varietal.


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i hate all those cheesy names


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You're not drinking the label, you're drinking what's inside the bottle. The cheesy name thing is just a fad that will fade in time as the marketers find the next big thing.


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I don't expect to find profound wines in bottles with cheesy labels. Chances are the marketing people responcible for slapping a drawing of some fancy critter on the bottle also took care of what's inside the bottle. Critters appeal to certain types of people; habitual drunkards and depressed housewifes are among them. Wine enthusiasts are not the targeted audience... thank God.
 
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yikes. i'll grant that yellow tail is less than tasty. but beware the beast of snobbery. perhaps sometimes people just get tired of the stuffiness and wish to enjoy life and wine with tongue in cheek.
 
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There is nothing stuffy about properly and tastefully designed labels. Wine connoisseurs serious about their hobby realize that all these fuzzy wombats and pinguins really belong in children's books, not wine labels. But there is more to that than a cute kangaroo in an awkward pose on the bottle. World class wine is not cute, it's beautiful and deserves proper packaging.
 
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It is all about advertising.

Rock music groups frequently have weird names that really don't have anything to do with music. Rolling Stones? Why not "Jagger and co"? Led Zeppelin? The Beatles?

The names have never made sense to me.....unlike, let's say, Beethoven, which was the guy's name. He wrote 9 symphonies, so we call the 1st one, Beethoven's First Symphony, and so forth (although sometimes they get nicknames, like Eroica).


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Lets not forget names like Stags Leap, and Larkmead. are these names that much different than Yellow Tail or Black Swan? I don't know how much more pretentious a person can get than to judge a wine by it's name.


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I thought that the odd names were an effort by the winemakers to make wine more approachable for people who were too intimidated by wine in the past. If they make it unpretentious then more people will partake. It's a win-win. It's sort of like opera houses now not caring if people wear jeans to matinees anymore. It brings people in and lets them enjoy a bit of culture without having them feel intimidated. It's nice.
 
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I agree 100% BW. I think it's great that companies are creating approachable, affordable wines so people can get a start learning what the wine culture is about and have fun doing it. Besides why not have fun with a label wine is suppose to be about having fun.


After all is said and done it's still only grape juice.
 
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great comments, board. you rock.

remember that most wines are priced under $12 a bottle and that more than 90% of wines are meant to be drunk as soon as they hit the store shelves. in addition, these wines are the cash cows; they are for the majority of folks who simply want an accessible, yummy wine.

as for the animal names, i really enjoyed the movie, "ice age," and am looking forward to "the meltdown."

cheers!
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hey now............. easy folks..........

I was wondering what these styles of wines are called in the "wine world".

Are they - do they- have a special term since they are not a region/variety/maker?????

and BTW snobs suck the fun out of any pleasure- wine included......
 
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I was wondering what these styles of wines are called in the "wine world".

Generally they are referred to as "plonk".

Sorry teacher...... Wink


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Originally posted by irwin:
It is all about advertising.

Rock music groups frequently have weird names that really don't have anything to do with music. Rolling Stones? Why not "Jagger and co"? Led Zeppelin? The Beatles?

The names have never made sense to me.....unlike, let's say, Beethoven, which was the guy's name. He wrote 9 symphonies, so we call the 1st one, Beethoven's First Symphony, and so forth (although sometimes they get nicknames, like Eroica).


this is way to random to make any sense.


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Plonk? Gigond Ass, have you never tasted Old Geezer Australian Tawny.

This isn't plonk. It's funny.


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Originally posted by STEVE S:
Lets not forget names like Stags Leap, and Larkmead. are these names that much different than Yellow Tail or Black Swan? I don't know how much more pretentious a person can get than to judge a wine by it's name.


I wouldn’t call Stag’s Leap a novelty name. The winery, established in the 1890’s, is actually in the Stag’s Leap District and the name is a reference to this. Other wineries in the Stag’s Leap District include Shafer, Chimney Rock, Pine Ridge, Sinskey, and others.


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As is stated in the latest edition of 'Wine Spectator', the trendy labels are to attract the young adult wine drinker which, apparently, are turning on to wine in droves. Cool
 
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Fat Bastard is very popular in Pennsylvania. People just laugh at the label and feel compelled to purchase a bottle.


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Another one with a funny name is CAT'S PEE ON A GOOSEBERRY BUSH SAUV. BLANC. However this wine is actually very good. To bad the price of this wine keeps going up, I guess that means it is becoming popular.

By the way my girl friend and myself just joined this message board, nice to meet everyone.

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Another funny name:

The Stump Jump- Australia

Great Shiraz/Grenache blend that has acquired rave reviews from Australian Wine Critics...and only costs about $11 (AUS)!


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Cool Hey Wayne&Ashley...'Cat's Pee On A Gooseberry Bush'...I mean, seriously?
 
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Darlene I know it seems like a crazy name but it's actually a very fun wine. Heave on the gooseberry taste, so it may not be for everyone but a lot of people are talking about it. I think it's aimed at more of a young crowd. But the prices keeps going up so it must be selling well. I started off around 10.95(CAN) a year ago and now it's 14(CAN).
 
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my rule of thumb is to avoid any bottle with a picture of an animal on it.
 
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