"You want to age a $20.00 of Wine for 8-10 years. Again, your Wine, your choice"
I have a lot of sub $20 wines that will get 7-10 years of age on them before they are drunk, even some sub $10. Clos du Bois Sonoma improves for about 5 years after release (I'm talking mostly tannin integration, not an explosion of secondary bottle characteristics) in good years. The only '97s I've had that should have probably been drunk already are the 'Coastals', RM, BV, Sterling, etc.

I've got to get bottle of this stuff. There is only one way to see who's right. Bottoms up!!!

[ 10-11-2002, 02:45 PM: Message edited by: tronsraiders ]

I personally think they are both right, They are both entitled to their own opinions on wine, and how, and when ,and what not to drink. Just keep it civil.

Boardo, IMO, no one is questioning LCC's taste in wine. It is the seemingly arrogant and pretentious assertion that a $20 wine is inherently made to be drank young and cannot improve with age/or last.

LCC, I hope you read this and realize that there was a decided lack of tact in how you approached this. You essentially attacked someone's palatte based on the price of the wine. FTG never said the wine would improve anymore.. just that it WOULD LAST.

FWIW, I can't afford to drink through $20 wine on an "everyday" basis, and your assumption that I should be able to is offensive to say the least.

Further, 1982 Mouton might not be in the stores either.. Are you going to attack someone posting on that?

Reasons like this are the same reason that people rebelled against Jones. Just because YOU have an opinion doesn't mean everyone should agree with it. Also there is no call to publicly voice your opinon EVERYTIME YOU DISAGREE WITH SOMEONE. PEOPLE ARE ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN OPINIONS.

Shoot, I have already broken my own decision to stay uninvolved with crap like this. Oh well. Just ticks me off when people discredit wine or opinions on wine based on the price of the wine.

Haven't had it, wish I had so I could get involved in the pointless argument.

I have a lot less sub $30 dollar wines in my cellar than I used to but it's not so much because they can't or will not age well. It's really just a limited space thing.

I had a magnum of 93 Justin Cab a while ago, about $35 on release. ($15 for 750 ml).

I thought it aged rather nicely and took on some great complexity.

In all fairness, I don't think LCC intended to be rude to any of you at first.

That's all I'm saying, fellas. Keep it civil.

I never said the '97 Honig was a "great" wine; never said it would go 20 years. I highly recommended it because it is drinking beautifully right now (and probably for a few more years), and is a bargain at $20-ish (for a '97 Napa Cab).

I welcome that LCC has a different opinion, I'd just like to see a little less pretentiousness and a little more civility, mutual respect, etc.

I feel like I'm back in grade school again: "Teacher, can you give LCC some more Ritalin so the rest of us can learn?"

PS to my NJ friends: I meant no disrespect. I lived in NJ for two years, and used the term with all due respect. (But GO Avs!)

I wish I could buy it just to try it. I wish I could buy any CA cabs really...oh well...Damn pacific ocean.

Jeremy - Napa, Nov. 2003. Methinks you'll get a shot or two

[ 10-11-2002, 08:44 PM: Message edited by: Eric White ]

Highlander190: Ok, you got me-----just what the heck did you mean???

GMT. the last little bit was borrowed from Monty Python and the holy grail. ("lets not bicker and argue, over who killed who, this is a HAPPY occasion!!!")

Eric,
I've devoted three weeks to my US trip and am intending to go to New York and Seattle so I hope to try a whole host of US wines. Look forward to those Napa cabs particularly although I've heard they can be excrutiatingly expensive. $40 US translates to $80 NZD and for that much I expecting to be very impressed. I look forward to it. May even have some wines to surprise you guys with. Forget "may" I will have some.

smaug: Thanks for the info! I guess I had better get my head out of textbooks and watch TV once in a while......