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  • 1995 Château de Beaucastel Châteauneuf-du-Pape - France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape (5/9/2006)
    Not remarkable but itself, quite good with BBQ'd pork chops. The whole lemon went into the BBQ sauce to bring some acidity this wine was missing. I doubt very much this wine will outlive my children. (92 pts.)

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Confused Confused Confused Roll Eyes

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Please don't post on CT...


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Serge,

You might want to delete your post. Red Face

A cup of coffee might also be in order. Wink
 
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W&A,
"A medium to
full-bodied wine, with a boatload of tannin, considerable grip and structure,
and a weighty feel in the mouth, this appears to be a classic vin de garde made
in the style of the 1978 Beaucastel (which is still not close to full maturity).
Prospective purchasers over the age of forty should be buying this wine for
their children.” Wine Advocate #113 (Oct 1997)
"
could have been right in 1997,
but in my bottle it wasn't so.
 
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WA, if you had this wine recently and think I had an off bottle, LMK and I'll bring remaining 3 back. They came from the same box.
 
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Please, send me your 3 off bottles, and I'll gladly send you a lemon or two to offset the lack of acidity you were seeking. Roll Eyes

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From the Beaucastel website:

1995: To be kept another 10 years at least.
If ever drunk young decant 24 hours in advance.

Roll Eyes


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Thank you, ArieS. I'll do that the next time. I am new to CdP and every bit of useful info helps. I gave you full credit.

PH, why don't you learn from ArieS and wine+art and say something useful for a change? Try it, you might like it.

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From the Beaucastel website:

1995: To be kept another 10 years at least.
If ever drunk young decant 24 hours in advance.

Roll Eyes


Almost all wine reviewed by the posters on this site is drunk far, far too soon. Sometimes I just have to shake my head at the horrible waste people brag about here. Roll Eyes


Just one more sip.
 
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Board-O, I am very NEW to CdP, and one should learn somewhere somehow. I apreciate all the constructive critisism, it speeds up the learning process. Next time I try something new I'll do more due diligence. We are never old..as long as we are capable to learn something new.

BTW, I quoted you once re: CdP at Wine Therapy, but was snarled on, so I didn't go futher. Those guys KNOW EVERYTHING.
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Originally posted by Serge Birbrair:
PH, why don't you learn from ArieS and wine+art and say something useful for a change? Try it, you might like it.


OK, here goes. I'll quote w + a:

quote:
Serge,

You might want to delete your post.


Apply that useful advice X 2900 plus posts. Thanks in advance....

PH
 
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Originally posted by Board-O:
Almost all wine reviewed by the posters on this site is drunk far, far too soon. Sometimes I just have to shake my head at the horrible waste people brag about here. Roll Eyes


I agree with you Board-O, but some people, including myself, like to try one bottle of everything they put in their cellar to make their own opinion of the wine's quality and ageing potential...
 
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Impulse, vitually nothing will be learned by tasting a slumbering Beaucastel. These wines emerge from a cocoon after a lengthy metamorphosis.

Two wines that are virtually impossible to predict in their youth: Rhones and Burgundies. Over the years, I've seen the pros retract more often than not.


Just one more sip.
 
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PH, don't be jelous with ArieS getting credit while you could only earn "lemony guy" reputation. Your day will come one day too.
Why are you so tart this morning? What happened, sweetypie?
 
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Impulse, vitually nothing will be learned by tasting a slumbering Beaucastel. These wines emerge from a cocoon after a lengthy metamorphosis.

Two wines that are virtually impossible to predict in their youth: Rhones and Burgundies. Over the years, I've seen the pros retract more often than not.


Board-O.

When would you start drinking the '95?
 
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Syd, while you're waiting for a reply, check out this.

Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with trying a Chateauneuf that's already more than 10 years old, to see how it's developing, if you have a reasonable supply of them. There are some wines that conventional wisdom would indicate need a lot more time-- First Growths from great vintages, or Vega Sicilia Unico, for example-- but even Beaucastel or VT should be starting to move into their drinking windows after 10 years. Patience, however, will be rewarded for those who can wait longer.


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quote:
Originally posted by Board-O:
These wines emerge from a cocoon after a lengthy metamorphosis.

Two wines that are virtually impossible to predict in their youth: Rhones and Burgundies. Over the years, I've seen the pros retract more often than not.


Again, I agree with you, but I still like to try. I've had too many experiences in which the wine emerge and are completely over the hill already (for example, a few VTs for the 1980's). I feel really dumb when I haven't tasted a wine at least once until it was too late.
 
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syd, this is just a guess based on the 15 or so past vintages of Beaucastel I've tried and what I know of the characteristics of the 1995 vintage. I'm guessing this wine needs a bare minimum of 15 years from vintage date and will almost undoubtedly show better at 20 than 15.


Just one more sip.
 
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Thanks, Board-O.

I'll let mine sleep.
 
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I only have 3 and they will still be sleeping for a while.


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Originally posted by ArieS:
From the Beaucastel website:

1995: To be kept another 10 years at least.
If ever drunk young decant 24 hours in advance.

Roll Eyes


Almost all wine reviewed by the posters on this site is drunk far, far too soon. Sometimes I just have to shake my head at the horrible waste people brag about here. Roll Eyes

I was shocked when I saw that he decided to open a 1989 first growth already too. I just seems way too early. I am a complete novice in wines/drinking windows, but cannot imagine opening it now.
 
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Originally posted by sprnplr:
I am a complete novice in wines/drinking windows, but cannot imagine opening it now.


I know....

the store owner who sold us this wine sends you his regards and confirms:
You are a complete novice.
 
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How can one person be so fn annoying?
 
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It takes years of hard work! Big Grin


Just one more sip.
 
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