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So where's the tasting note?
____________________ An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools. - Hemingway |
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Does it really matter to you what shade of red I best associate with it and what berry best matches the nose? There are dozens of other notes on a wine this popular that cover all those bases. To me, it is simply great wine that will get better. |
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Ahhh... so what's the point of your post? There are also dozens of other notes on a wine this popular that tells me how great it is... (I do believe this is the TN section). I think your comments are better reserved for the "what are you drinking this month" type of thread... ____________________ An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools. - Hemingway |
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I thought it was a fine note.
I'd rather have a note like this, than one full of flower and fluff but questionable objectiveness. Paul Romero (tlily)- Owner, Winemaker, Tour Guide Stefania Wine http://www.stefaniawine.com |
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What is the point of any note? To confer to others and have a reference of your feelings regarding the wine. A note can take any form, can even be a single word. If I thought I was going to be graded I would have written 5 paragraphs, double spaced, MLA format. If my taste changes or 10 years down the line I try a 2015 Caymus and want to look back, I will know I thought this was the stuff I judged other cabs by. I stated I really liked it and felt it was a 91 point wine. Sure I didn't match the color to a particular shade of red during a sunset but I think the note serves its purpose. Edit: If you feel there is more I should say or an aspect I should touch more upon feel free to say so and I will gladly address it. That is what the board is for after all. This message has been edited. Last edited by: Sticky2, |
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Let's not go there. Once posts need to have a point the board may as well close down. http://scmwine.wikispaces.com http://scmwine.blogspot.com http://blogs.sun.com/davetong http://twitter.com/davetong |
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Look, I'm not trying to antagonize you. You are right, a note can be a single word and of any form. But that would not be a tasting note. No where in your note is there any reference to any impressions you had aside from how much you liked it. But that impression alone is captured in your score. The point of the note is to enable you to elaborate as to why you scored it that way. As an example, I'll use this particular incidence. I'm interested in knowing the palates of people that obviously frequent the WS boards here. In this case, I'm particularly interested because I'm contemplating about purchasing it (It is being released in Ontario in a little less than two weeks). I clicked expecting to find a flavor profile (for which I will then attempt to seek out possibly some of your other notes, if available, to match up with my own experiences) but only found an assertion that it was good. ____________________ An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools. - Hemingway |
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Good point Dave. Or was it a point?
Paul Romero (tlily)- Owner, Winemaker, Tour Guide Stefania Wine http://www.stefaniawine.com |
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You are not antagonizing me, I hope I did not come off that way. I see notes as so open ended that really there are countless ways in which one can express their thoughts on a wine, no single way being correct. I did not go in depth into the flavors because with Caymus I believed a short note conferring where I rank the wine is enough, namely for me. If you would like I would not mind at all at detailing why I feel this is a strong 91 point Cab (velvety smooth comes to mind) later in the day. |
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Not to interupt the back and forth flow, but I drank a bottle of '05 Caymus last week and made notes for class.
2005 Caymus Cab. More of a purple shade with medium depth of color. Nose has some black fruit but more of a medium strength smell, not overpowering. Also smelling the oak and maybe a hint of spice. Medium to heavy body not giant but big, smooth and easy to drink. In my mind a very standard but good cali cab, oak, dark fruit (black cherry and currant), with a little spice rack. The finish is nice but not terribly long. What makes this wine great is that it is exactly the flavor that I think of in a very good california cab, straightforward but very smooth and could be an awesome dinner wine, without being over the top and demanding center stage. It makes me want to open a special select sooooo badly. Edit: sorry I don't give scores in class but I would put it at 90+ and be a happy drinker That answer is inextricably contingent upon the type of life being led... and, of course, the quality of the pancakes. |
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I'm in the same camp as far as this making me want to try an SS badly. I haven't tried one yet... have to let them cellar for a few more years. I am just wondering how much better the Special Selection can be. The same but better? Completely different style? In time I will know. |
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I gotta know - Did it express a sense of place?
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I'm sure it came from planet earth.  ____________________ An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools. - Hemingway |
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Are you normally conservative when scoring wines Sticky2? Your note makes me think more of a 97-100 pt wine than a 91. “Love every aspect....bathe in it (that would be expensive
 )....Great” seem like very high praise for a 91.“What is the soup du jour?"...It’s the soup of the day..."Mmmm, that sounds good, I’ll have that” - Lloyd Christmas |
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It depends, I think people have gotten carried away with scores. There is so much 90+ thrown around that 91 seems ho hum. 91 is supposed to be outstanding. When I think of a wine that just cracks the 90 barrier, I think of Caymus. It deserves high praise. When I think of 96+ these wines are classics, the kind that don't come around very often and are special. I guess it would be more cost effective to drink than bathe in |
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thanks for the note.
I will be making my annual purchase of this in a couple of weeks and was wondering what people have thought of the wine. The SS is available as well and I was wondering how big of a difference is the regular bottle to the SS. Is it a huge difference or marginally better with a 3X price tag to the regular. Most of my SS aren't ready to drink so I am looking for 'board' guidance. TIA Now....where's that Screwpull? |
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Brashley, I was a little worried when I popped the cork and poured out a few ounces. The nose was muted and it wasn't that expressive on the palate. I did not decant, but left the bottle to breath. 2 hours later with my rib steak this wine opened up nicely. Tannins were still firm, but lots of fruit. It went great with my dinner. I had a glass left over for the next day. I could really taste the toasted oak. It seemed tight again and a little tannic, but I did not have food with it. Don't get me wrong, there was still lots of fruit and aromas of cassis, cherry and vanilla. At this stage, I think this wine needs another couple of years, and in the interim needs to be paired with food to be fully enjoyed. But then again, maybe I'm comparing this wine with the quality I expect and get from the Caymus SS, and not giving the Caymus cab a fair shake. ______________________________ Leave the gun...take the cannoli. |
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Mezzo,
Thanks. I've got one that I think I'll keep sitting on. Maybe I'll pop it 4 or 5 years from now. |
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I have another '05 in the cellar too. I don't know why I decided to pop the cork, but I don't have any regrets. I've got mine earmarked for 2010+. Earlier this year, I had a couple of the '04 Caymus SS. Wow, this is a fantastic wine. But is it worth over double the price?....I think it is
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It is definitely worth trying now if you have more than 1 bottle to see how it ages. From all the 05's I have tried the Caymus Cab is the most approachable now after a decant of a few hours. I have 26 bottles left... suffice it to say I like it |
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we had the 01 SS earlier in the summer and it was drinking splendidly as a pop and pour my food blog! http://clayfood.blogspot.com |
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