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Tripdaddy
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  • 2002 Bodega Numanthia Termes Toro Numanthia - Toro, Castilla y León, Spain (10/26/2004)
    Interesting nose of dried cranberries, leather, a bit of barnyard but then sweet dark fruits. Kind of a swirling boquet if you will. The palate follwed the nose pretty closely. Nice, balanced fruit, but came of a bit light at first but with time put on weight and depth. The finish gets cut short by substantial, drying tannins. I think this wine needs a few years to soften up. For the money it represents a great value in Spanish wines. solid 91+ pointer. (91 pts.)

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From what I've read, it's a distinct notch below the two previous vintages.


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Put this note in another thread and I think it belongs here:

Just had a bottle of the '02 Termes this evening. This needs more time in the bottle but I found it lacking some of the fruit of the '00 Termes. Still a well made 89-90 point wine but I think it's a big stretch to put it at 93 points as WS did and not as good as the '00 Termes. This is one of those wines I would put in the 'very versatile, great with food' categories.

Agree with the tasting notes with the exception of the leather and I didn't notice any barnyard in this wine at all and I also noted a taste of cherry.
 
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I had this wine tonight with oh-so tender pork ribs, shoestring french fries, and iron skillet beans.

It pulled hints of raspberries, specks of ripened strawberries, and cherry oak. This wine is not soft on the palate at all. For the most part, I am a little disappointed that WS chose this as its #3 wine of the year but I have to admit it is a solid wine and I would give it 90 points.
 
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Originally posted by Sapril Nguyen:
I had this wine tonight with oh-so tender pork ribs...
It's nice to see someone from Texas eating real ribs. Wink


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I picked up 8 bottles of the Termes this weekend at $18 each. Even if it isn't a 93 pointer, I think that was a good price for a good wine.

Now, as far as Texans eating pork ribs, when it comes to ribs, there's only pork. Beef ribs suck.

But beef brisket, ah, that's another story. Lordy, I miss that Texas brisket...
 
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Rothko,

When I touched my knife and fork slightly on the ribs, the meat just fell off...that was how good it was.
 
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Sap Did you make these yourself? If so, post on the dining threads. I'd be interested to see how you did them.


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Let me guess, Sapril: you had them with "Bone Suckin' Sauce".

http://www.iron-chef-bbq.com/bone_suckin_sauce.html

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That's the worst sauce in the world!!! I tried it once... unfortunately.


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Unfortunately, I did not make the ribs myself. I had it at my favorite restaurant called Houston's.
 
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I love Houstons. We have a restaurant here which is owned by the Houstons chain, but they have to call it The Palm Beach Grill (Palm Beach doesn't like to have chain restaurants on the island, so they disguise their names - the only exceptions I know of are Charley's Crab and Bice).

Very nice for Houstons to have the Termes on the wine list. If you don't mind me asking, what did they charge?
 
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Oh sorry,
The Termes wasn't on the wine list. I did BYOB and it was only $10 for corkage.
 
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I'm close to Tripdaddy on this wine with a few exceptions.

Almost NO nose after 2 hours. This changed just a bit 3 hours after decanting. Alcoholic aromas of cherry and wood, but retrained still. Viscous in the mouth with chalky tannins which gradually subside and leave a long mouthpuckering liquor-like finish. Agreed that this is a way from ready, but for my $19, a great value and am looking forward to seeing how this does over the coming years. #3 for the year? Probably not. In my top 50 for this year? Definitely.

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Had another bottle two nights ago (I think I have a couple left). Didn't decant, just opened and poured.

It's still a decent wine, but for the life of me I cannot fathom how this wine received the #3 ranking by WS. It's a good wine, but that is all; it is not a great wine.
 
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I've had several vintages of this wine and agree completely with Rothko. Maybe time will help. I'm holding mine because I have no interest in drinking them like they are now.


Just one more sip.
 
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Originally posted by Rothko:
Had another bottle two nights ago (I think I have a couple left). Didn't decant, just opened and poured.

It's still a decent wine, but for the life of me I cannot fathom how this wine received the #3 ranking by WS. It's a good wine, but that is all; it is not a great wine.


Confusing I know, but I believe it was the Termes and not the Numanthia that got the #3 ranking. I usually tell by which of the names is used twice..LOL
 
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I am referring to the Termes, not the Numanthia.
 
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