Wine Ratings Site  
Wine Ratings|Editors' Picks|Articles|Collecting|Blogs|Video|Learn Wine|Dining & Travel|Forums|Shop|For the Trade|Help
Wine Conversations|Tasting Notes|Dining and Cooking|Travel and Entertainment|Buying and Selling|Off-Line Events|Learn Wine
Wine Spectator Online    Wine Spectator Forums  Hop To Forum Categories  Tasting Notes    TN: '47 Borgogno Riserva Barolo
Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
  Login/Join 
Member
Posted
This was a recent import from Italy. It had about 4 days of rest in the cellar before I opened one, and I'm guessing that may not have been quite enough time to settle down. Showing very young for 61 years of age. Ruby in color with slight ambering throughout. No signs of seepage. Lovely notes of rose petal, copper penny, orange peel, tobacco, cassis, smoke and light soy. Great glycerin filled midsection, concentrated, and very light on it's feet all at once. Elegant and nuanced, yet sturdy and showing great uplifting acidity. Long finish. This was best after 1-2 hours of decanting. 94 pts.


So much wine.....so little time!!!
 
Posts: 5976 | Location: San Francisco | Registered: Jun 20, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
Nice!
 
Posts: 2661 | Location: Alexandria, VA, USA | Registered: Oct 29, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
Thanks for the great notes.
Sounds like an incredibly durable wine.

I got some '97 from Borgogno. Should I really wait 50 years before I open a bottle?


Albert Jochems
- life is to short to drink bad wines -
 
Posts: 249 | Location: The Netherlands | Registered: Aug 19, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
I thought bottles with this much age should not be decanted. I imagine Futronic fainted shortly after reading your TN. Wink


______________________________
Leave the gun...take the cannoli.
 
Posts: 1735 | Location: Woodbridge, Canada | Registered: Jan 17, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
You know, you really have got to stop drinking wines when they're too young, it's a colossal waste. The best bottle of Borgogno Riserva I ever had was the 1872.
 
Posts: 1004 | Location: Toronto, ON | Registered: Apr 05, 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by Mezzo Litro:
I thought bottles with this much age should not be decanted. I imagine Futronic fainted shortly after reading your TN. Wink


A wine with this much age can need some time to express itself. It's been bottled up for so long that it might take some time to open up. Personally, however, I prefer to pour the wine carefully down to the shoulder, then let it breathe, uncorked in the cellar for a period of time. Then you can gently decant off the sediment before serving. Barolo and Barbaresco can generally withstand decanting, however, as the nose isn't as fickle/delicate as Brunello.
 
Posts: 8355 | Location: Toronto, Canada | Registered: Apr 17, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
Fut, whenever I read your posts, I hear violins playing softly in the background. You sure capture the moment when it comes to wop wines. (applause...roses being tossed...applause).


______________________________
Leave the gun...take the cannoli.
 
Posts: 1735 | Location: Woodbridge, Canada | Registered: Jan 17, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by Mezzo Litro:
Fut, whenever I read your posts, I hear violins playing softly in the background. You sure capture the moment when it comes to wop wines. (applause...roses being tossed...applause).

Big Grin
He is a passionate one, that Fut. Cool
 
Posts: 4437 | Location: Montreal, QC | Registered: Feb 17, 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
quote:
I thought bottles with this much age should not be decanted. I imagine Futronic fainted shortly after reading your TN.


Actually...this was recommended to me by Eric White who has significant experience with older Borgogno, and this wine in particular. Maybe he can chime in here to give more insight into this great producer and this amazing vintage.


So much wine.....so little time!!!
 
Posts: 5976 | Location: San Francisco | Registered: Jun 20, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
Ah yes, one of my all time favorite old Barolos, this is one very fine wine. I've opened probably 4 or 5 bottles of the '47 now, and it has yet to disappoint. The wine definitely benefits from some air. The treatment I typically use is to "slow-O" the wine by removing the cork early in the day and just letting it rest until evening, at which point I will decant off sediment and, if transporting to a restaurant, rinse the bottle and pour the wine back in for service up to a few hours later. If not transporting, then just serve from the decanter, enjoy and watch the wine develop over the next couple hours.

It never ceases to amaze me how resilient these old Barolo and Barbaresco are. Contrary to what you would normally think, these wines not only do not fall apart quickly, the definitely improve with air over time. For me, I have Thomas Browne to thank for this - without his guidance I would never have had the nerve to treat these old beauties in this (proper) way.


----------------------
2008 - the end of an error
 
Posts: 4345 | Location: San Ramon, California | Registered: May 07, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
Big wow. I hope to someday get to try one of those old school gems. How awesome.
 
Posts: 2661 | Location: Alexandria, VA, USA | Registered: Oct 29, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
I can't believe you opened a '47! That thing must be 20 years away from being ready. Too bad you never learn.... Wink


*******
This IS next year!
 
Posts: 4255 | Location: Chicago | Registered: May 24, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
I've had a different experience with these wines. I've had maybe ten different vintages dating back to the 1953 and never one I'd buy again.


Just one more sip.
 
Posts: 22479 | Location: NY | Registered: Oct 18, 2001Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by Board-O:
I've had a different experience with these wines. I've had maybe ten different vintages dating back to the 1953 and never one I'd buy again.


And that explains why dr.darkrichandbold was able to recently import some from Italy. Smile
 
Posts: 101 | Location: London, ON | Registered: Sep 30, 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
FWIW....I picked this up because it received glorious reviews from various posters mostly on ebob. It seems to widely be considered one of Borgogno's greatest wines, and from one of the greatest years for wine period! These bottles came directly out of a cellar in Italy where they have been since release. Of all the notes I've read mine is the least praiseworthy! Here are some threads:

http://dat.erobertparker.com/bboard/showthread.php?t=15...ighlight=borgogno+47

http://dat.erobertparker.com/bboard/showthread.php?t=15...ighlight=borgogno+47

http://dat.erobertparker.com/bboard/showthread.php?t=12...ighlight=borgogno+47

http://dat.erobertparker.com/bboard/showthread.php?t=12...ighlight=borgogno+47

http://dat.erobertparker.com/bboard/showthread.php?t=12...ighlight=borgogno+47

I wouldn't be surprised to see Board-O downplay anything I post on, so I wouldn't rush into any conclusions there Bill@IA. Wink


So much wine.....so little time!!!
 
Posts: 5976 | Location: San Francisco | Registered: Jun 20, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
"as the nose isn't as fickle/delicate as Brunello."

Fut: Can I take from this that you do not decant Brunelli?


Someone save me from myself
 
Posts: 80 | Location: People's Republic of Ontario | Registered: Nov 15, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
This wine is currently my #1 red wine of 2008. EW's bottle was just stunning back in Feb.
 
Posts: 1656 | Location: Austin, Texas | Registered: Jan 08, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by dr.darkrichandbold:
I wouldn't be surprised to see Board-O downplay anything I post on, so I wouldn't rush into any conclusions there Bill@IA. Wink
Roll Eyes

Do a search. I've said this several times, long before you posted on it.


Just one more sip.
 
Posts: 22479 | Location: NY | Registered: Oct 18, 2001Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Do a search. I've said this several times, long before you posted on it.


Fair enough...as I look back I realize you were commenting on vintages back to '53 and not this particular vintage. I don't doubt they could have been poor. From what I've read there are only a few Borgogno's that have stood out over time, and the '47 happens to be one of them.


So much wine.....so little time!!!
 
Posts: 5976 | Location: San Francisco | Registered: Jun 20, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by dr.darkrichandbold:
From what I've read there are only a few Borgogno's that have stood out over time, and the '47 happens to be one of them.


Well, there are others as well Wink, such as 52, 55, 58, 61, 64 - all wonderful wines, and I'll let you know about the '37 very soon Cool

This message has been edited. Last edited by: Eric White,


----------------------
2008 - the end of an error
 
Posts: 4345 | Location: San Ramon, California | Registered: May 07, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
 Previous Topic | Next Topic powered by eve community  
 

Wine Spectator Online    Wine Spectator Forums  Hop To Forum Categories  Tasting Notes    TN: '47 Borgogno Riserva Barolo

© Wine Spectator Online 2006