2002 Barossa Valley Estate Shiraz E & E Black Pepper - Australia, South Australia, Barossa, Barossa Valley (4/22/2006) WIML95,NOWA,WS97
Tasted April 22, 2006 at LilacWine’s house in Fredericksburg, TX. Opened and served hours later in a Spiegelau Authentis Magnum glass. Purple color in the glass, clear hue throughout. Nose of roasted coffee, chocolate, black berries and plums. Flavors of black cherries, plums, black currants and pepper. Considering how long after this bottle was opened it was tasted and that it was likely opened at least five years too early FOR A FIRST TASTING I’m betting this will be an excellent wine in due time. Rating reflects that. Hold for at least five years before visiting again. Considering this could be an excellent wine some day at a price of around $70.00 a bottle I’d consider the value to be somewhere between highly recommended and excellent. (95 pts.)
Aside from Grange, this may be the most consistently high scoring bottling from Oz. I've only had one bottle, from an earlier vintage (thanks Baird! ), but look forward to trying others in the future.
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This wine is being released up here in a couple of weeks so I did a search to see who has tried it. Whaddya know, Joe has tried it. Sounds pretty good, but what did Purple rate it? I trust her palate more than yours.
Originally posted by steve8: This wine is being released up here in a couple of weeks so I did a search to see who has tried it. Whaddya know, Joe has tried it. Sounds pretty good, but what did Purple rate it? I trust her palate more than yours.
On her behalf..."it was a really smooth 92 points but I'd like the opportunity to revisit it". Translation in my humble opinion? We blew through close to 30 wines that night and the tasting conditions were less than ideal so this wine definitely deserves a revisit.
Go with my note.
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Posted by wine+art: One of the VERY few wines I have from Oz is the 1998 E&E.
Holding for an offline when the theme is Shiraz.
Funny you should mention that. There is a shiraz offline occurring right this very minute, approximately two miles from where you are. Currently in attendance are a burgeoning wino and multiple felines...
It was sincere. Earnest. As heartfelt as my desire that you return (along with that brave colleague of yours ), so that we may again enjoy the food, wine, and atmosphere of Draelion...
It was sincere. Earnest. As heartfelt as my desire that you return (along with that brave colleague of yours ), so that we may again enjoy the food, wine, and atmosphere of Draelion...
Originally posted by bman: Aside from Grange, this may be the most consistently high scoring bottling from Oz. I've only had one bottle, from an earlier vintage (thanks Baird! ), but look forward to trying others in the future.
Hi Bman, Do you, or anyone, happen to know when E&E was founded by chance ? Thanks for the Tn WIML.
Posts: 2739 | Location: Kelowna, BC | Registered: Oct 18, 2001
Do you, or anyone, happen to know when E&E was founded by chance ?
I don't know, but the first vintage of Black Pepper that I ever bought was 1991 (C$25, thank you) and they had been around for a while then, I believe.
Where's TORB when we really need him?
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Posts: 6489 | Location: Vancouver, BC | Registered: Oct 17, 2001
Barossa Valley Estate is a cooperative of growers that has been around for some time. They are 50% owned by the growers and 50% owned by Hardy's Wine Co. They have their own winery but Hardys is invloved in the distribution in Oz (at least.)
The Black Pepper Has been around for some time, since at least the late 1980's. The oldest vintage I can remember trying was the 88 (a few years ago.)
Thye have had a succession of winemakers in recent years, so the wine quality has been a bit patchy but the 02 is bloody good.
Cheers Ric www.torbwine.com
Posts: 1153 | Location: Bowral NSW Australia | Registered: Dec 01, 2001
2002 Barossa Valley Estate Shiraz E & E Black Pepper - Australia, South Australia, Barossa, Barossa Valley (8/20/2006) Opened and decanted 30-45 minutes. It should have had more decanting, but opened well in the glass. Deep ruby with purple edge. Nice nose of dark fruits, spices and a hint of chocolate. Flavors of fruits, mostly cherries and a nice (not overwhelming) presence of pepper. The palate was nice and smooth, well balanced and plenty of stuff for the future. Not a typical fruit bomb Shiraz, it was more about finess and depth. This is way to young, but having young cellar and wanting a little Wow, I wasn't disappointed. (94 pts.)
Originally posted by steve8: Good to hear. Glad I picked up 3, but am planning to wait a few years before cracking the first one.
I will replace the bottle I had. It was serious DRABing !! But this was really nice, specially after a summer of rose and cheappy whites, I needed to fire up my passion for wine and to gear up for the next offlines !!
Originally posted by steve8: Good to hear. Glad I picked up 3, but am planning to wait a few years before cracking the first one.
I will replace the bottle I had. It was serious DRABing !! But this was really nice, specially after a summer of rose and cheappy whites, I needed to fire up my passion for wine and to gear up for the next offlines !!
Let's just keep in mind who suggested buying the E & E black pepper and give credit where it is DUE!!
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Posts: 3390 | Location: montreal | Registered: Feb 21, 2004
Originally posted by mimik: Let's just keep in mind who suggested buying the E & E black pepper and give credit where it is DUE!!
But I don't remember the SAQ sales clerks name !!!!
D'oh!!
*********************** "I have drunk not to the clouding of my reason, but just so much that I can still surely distinguish the syllables with my tongue." Athenaeus
Posts: 3390 | Location: montreal | Registered: Feb 21, 2004
), but look forward to trying others in the future.
