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This is a serious wine, but still completely primary. There is excellent ripe fruit, sturdy tannins, an excellent core of acidity, all laced with earthy nuances, but it will require years still to come around. This is proof positive that the producer may be more important than the vineyard when it comes to Burgundy. I don't plan on touching another bottle for 5 years at least. Stay thirsty my friends. | ||
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I think the producer and the vintage are of primary importance. Just one more sip. | |||
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Absolutely. I think the '05 vintage from Cotes de Nuits may be the finest since 1978 in general. | |||
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W&A and/or Board-O, any producers you would recommend? (other than the obvious DRC, Leroy...) TIA | |||
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I could try to help. Any price points, or share what you have enjoyed in the past? | |||
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Let's say under $100. thank you | |||
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Not sure of style you are looking for, but here are a few you may wish to seek out. Jean Grivot de Vogue Anne Gros Henri Gouges Dujac Dugat Armand JM Bouley Ponsot Boillot Good cross over producers you may want to seek out. de Montille Tollot Beaut Many more for sure. | |||
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Good list. As w+a said, there are loads of others. Just a few that have impressed me at winery visits: Gerard Raphet- everything we tasted was truly excellent Nicolas Potel Remoissenet- their 2009 barrel samples were very impressive Mongeard-Mugneret Just one more sip. | |||
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How in the world did I leave these off. | |||
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Hey, we both left off a load. Maybe we should tell mangiare which ones we'd avoid. Just a few I'd avoid: Louis Latour Faiveley Louis Jadot Bertagna Bouchard- I know some people enjoy their wines, but the ones I've had have underperformed Just one more sip. | |||
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Dme Fourrier and Drouhin-Laroze produced lovely 2005s. Fourrier has a wider price range and offerings than D-L. WSET Adv http://twitter.com/ilb013 | |||
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Many thanks. The avoid list is just as valuable as the seek out list. I've been in to Jean Grivot for a few years and really enjoy his wines. Thank you | |||
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Just curious, since these are such huge producers, Would you avoid ALL wines from these producers, even the Grand crus and top 1ers from their own domaine holdings? Or is it more of a matter where these guys can make a few great bottles, you just can't buy blindly? Stay thirsty my friends. | |||
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Good question, Redhawk. I do not know, but I completely avoid Latour, Jadot and Drouhin without people I completely trust and even often request/demand a taste of the specific wine before buying. Now this said, not one bottle of any of these in any of my cellars. | |||
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I need to make a few phone calls. Thanks Board-O. | |||
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None since the 1999 vintage in my cellar. Just one more sip. | |||
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Sorry for so many questions, but you are the font of knowledge! Also, are there any published critics who you feel have decent/trustworthy palates? WS/Sanderson? Burghound/Meadows? IWC/Tanzer? WA/(is it Rovanni or Schildknect or somebody)? View From the Cellar? Final question: When it comes to a good quality producer, do you find much difference in quality between their "maison" negociant wines, and the domaine wines, assuming the same vintage and vineyard class? Stay thirsty my friends. | |||
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Some names not mentioned yet: Marquis d'Angerville Robert Groffier I would also mention the base production of some star producer: Roumier (Georges) Mugnier Meo-Camuzet | |||
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I think cross-over producers are Beaune based winemakers who also have some vineyards in Nuits. "Wine, one sip of this will bathe the drooping spirits in delight beyond the bliss of dreams. Be wise and taste." - Milton | |||
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This message has been edited. Last edited by: wine+art, | |||
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W+A Thank you for your input. | |||
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Well, it is only worth what you pay for it. | |||
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Robert Chevillon for Nuits St Georges Taupenot Merme | |||
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Well, my daughter just received her acceptance package from U of D in the mail yesterday, so there may be an opportunity for me to obtain even better advice in the near future. | |||
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Congratulations, Redhawk. When do we get to start on the whites? Just one more sip. | |||
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