Hi winefriends,

in the last weeks my girlfriend and i planed our
trip through amerika. we will hopefully have the chance to meet some "winefreaks" .
that's the reason that i present you guy's
when and were we are one our tour.
the dates and places meens that we come to at eavening and stay overnight.


3. 7.2004 El Paso
4. 7. 2004 Carlsbad Caverns NP
5. 7. 2004 Albuquerque
6. 7. 2004 Petrified Forest NP
7. 7. 2004 Mesa Verde NP
8. 7. 2004 Arches NP
9. 7. 2004 Arches NP
10. 7. 2004 Fry Canyon
11. 7. 2004 Bryce Canyon NP
12. 7. 2004 Bryce Canyon NP
13. 7. 2004 Grand Canyon North Rim NP
14. 7. 2004 Gray Mountain
15. 7. 2004 Hulapai Indian Res.)
16. 7. 2004 Supai
17. 7. 2004 Kingman
18. 7. 2004 Las Vegas
19. 7. 2004 Three Rivers (Sequoia NP)
20. 7. 2004 Grant Grove Village (Sequoia NP)
21. 7. 2004 Yosemite Village NP
22. 7. 2004 Yosemite Village NP
23. 7. 2004 San Francisco
24. 7. 2004 San Francisco
25. 7. 2004 flight to munich germany


it will be great and we will have lot of fun

btw. is it allowed to import some bottle to USA?

This looks like a great trip. I did almost the same trip 10 years ago but stopped at Las Vegas. You will have fun.

You can bring at least two bottles of wine into the USA with no DUTY. Extras cost duty. You can read more at the US Customs website site at this link

If you are going to El Paso first then you are probably flying to Dallas or Houston first, yes? Let me know if you have a layover. I will meet you at the airport.

Joe

Hey Tsunami, have a great time. In 1998, my (German) wife and I saw many of the national parks you are going to. Our favorite was Bryce Canyon.

Does anyone know the Park Service's open-bottle policy (remember, America has puritanical attitudes toward alcohol). When we were camping, you could drink wine or beer at your campsite but you had to keep your bottle hidden, e.g. in a cooler. Have they changed their approach?

Unless it has changed all US Parks and almost all State Parks prohibit alcohol. However, it is very common to do it anyway. You wouldn't get in any trouble as long as you conceal it and are not drunk.

Joe

Kingman AZ?
Do you have relatives there?

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"From wine what sudden friendship springs!"

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Unless it has changed all US Parks and almost all State Parks prohibit alcohol.

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That would be a new one on me, especially since every National Park I've ever been to sold alcohol. I've never seen rules prohibiting alcohol in overnight areas. Openly drinking on trails and in some day use areas may be illegal, but prohibited period is just wrong. Also, at least from a California perspective State Parks allow alcoholic beverages in overnight areas as well, but may restrict their use in day use areas.
I'd love to hang out and pop a cork with you Tsunami, Yosemite or SF may be possible.

wineismylife,

i'm sorry we flight with delta and stop at atlanta.


cbmac,

i don't think that i'm going to drink alcohol when we are inside a national park!

i asked because we like to bring someting if we can
have a cance to meet some wine-lovers.



Pinot Envy,

we thought after hikeing (or riding) up the grand canyon we will arrive on top about 12.00 and are sertainly very tired after that we thought it will be a too long drive to las vegas
that's the reason for a stop in kingman.

do you have a better suggestion?



stealthman_1,

cool yosemite would be a great chance,
or maybe we have an offline in san francisco

Sounds like a great trip, but I have one question. What's New York, chopped liver?

Just one more sip.

board-o,

no new york this time, maybe next time.

chopped liver?
please explain

i remember some things we talked about:

- green pepper sauce
- horse meat carpaccio
- chocolat and wine
- "he brings the wilderness with him"

but chopped liver?

Not green pepper sauce- green peppercorn sauce.

The chopped liver expression is a colloquialism. It's an indication of worthlessness, though I don't understand how the expression arose. What the phrase meant was something akin to: What's New York, not worthy of a visit?

It was just a joke. When I posted it, I realized you might not know what I meant.

Just one more sip.

board-o,

yes, yes, green pepperCORN sauce!

i never heard about this therm, but well, OK.

new york did never have a big faszination of my person, i have bin 2 times in downtown and last time i prefered to stay out of town.
oh, ones i played a billard-tournement in long island (or was it in jersey) that was cool!

Pinot Envy, Eric White, grunhauser, winebrat and leesunhee.

what about an wine and dine in san francisco?

tsunami - YES!


Would you prefer the 23rd or the 24th? I'll start a new thread soon to coordinate the event

Once ... in the wilds of Afghanistan, I lost my corkscrew, and we were forced to live on nothing but food and water for days. - W. C. Fields

we arrive friday july 23th in sanfrancisco
and fly sunday july 25th 10.00 SFI

you can decide as you like, when we meet, what we do these day's, with you or my girlfriend and i go
alone, and make a tour in town!

we were thinking on book a hotel in advance but
we would have to know were we are so that we don't have to drive far after drunk wine!

Just another excuse for me to visit NorCal...

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"From wine what sudden friendship springs!"

tsunami, LadyR and I have visited quite a few of the destinations you are going to visit and StevieC has been to the US numerous times. I think we'll have a great time during our offline discussing all those gorgeous places!